If we’re comparing 2008 to 2019 the obvious difference is the year before 2008 the Phillies completed a miracle comeback to win the division whereas last year they fell apart.

Woody wrote:Proud of my reply to Matt S’ insane screed in that thread

It is sorta fun that the guy who looks like the biggest lunatic in that thread is the one who works in baseball now and INVENTED a stat

Jersey and I also talk about how we can gain some ground by playing the Nats and Braves. Simpler times.

This board was really fun in 2008

Ramon Gris wrote:This board was really fun in 2008

Yeah man, the days of goofy, fun 50 pager game threads have gone the way of the dodo.

Was at the game today impromptu to get out minds off the loss of the pup. Phillies have done a great job making that place so kid friendly.

Paid $5 per ticket and got the jersey and endless time on the playground, hot dog shooting machine and whiffleball field.

Managed to see the Harper and rhys bombs. Saw very little else but great time.

Slowhand wrote:

Ramon Gris wrote:This board was really fun in 2008

Yeah man, the days of goofy, fun 50 pager game threads have gone the way of the dodo.

Don't worry guys, I'm still here.

philliesphhan wrote:

Woody wrote:Proud of my reply to Matt S’ insane screed in that thread

It is sorta fun that the guy who looks like the biggest lunatic in that thread is the one who works in baseball now and INVENTED a stat

All baseball fans are insane. Go read Dodgers fan chat from this offseason and they were all raging over the Dodgers FO not making any big signings. When they've finished in 1st 6 straight years and their FO clearly knows what they're doing. Giants fans think their team is destined to win the WS every year, even after they lose 100 games. Marlins fans are convinced that trading away all their star players for nothing was necessary and the right thing to do.

The only logical fan base might be the Mets since their team is destined to suck for a long time and they all know it.

I think we were pretty zen in 2011.

The amount of Chad Durbin slander in that thread is amazing.

Wheels Tupay wrote:

Slowhand wrote:

Ramon Gris wrote:This board was really fun in 2008

Yeah man, the days of goofy, fun 50 pager game threads have gone the way of the dodo.

Don't worry guys, I'm still here.

You weren't here in 2008 (i.e. the good old days).

no he's just admitting to being a dodo

you guys are meanies

Also I probably tried joining in like 2007 but since pac is a slacker it took until 2009 to be approved

mtcal wrote:

Shadow wrote:
They haven't won a series against an above .500 team since May.

lol the toolshed hater on WIP with angelo on Friday morning said they hadn't BEATEN a team about .500 since may. i didn't feel like looking it up but i kinda figured we hadn't gotten swept against every +.500 team for 2 months.

Bad Cal. Bad!

1 wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

1 wrote:Phillies Twitter’s revisionist history of how amazing the 08 team was is just about as frustrating as watching the 08 team was.

I don’t know, I think what people are reacting to overall is that those Phillies were 21-14 in blowouts with many more runs scored than allowed (+75). These Phillies are 18-17 in blowouts (which I can’t really wrap my mind around, feels much worse) and are at -21 in those games.

Maybe it’s because they get blown out by the class of the NL at home or whatever (LA, Atl) but I for one feel much worse about them and their quality and their chances than I can recall feeling at any point in 2008.

Go back and read some game threads (if you can stand it). We hated that team around this time that year.

Charlie Manuel is a bumbling idiot. Howard strikes out and is too lazy to adjust. Rollins doesn't hustle. Fire or trade em all!

BatFlipsFTW wrote:

1 wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

1 wrote:Phillies Twitter’s revisionist history of how amazing the 08 team was is just about as frustrating as watching the 08 team was.

I don’t know, I think what people are reacting to overall is that those Phillies were 21-14 in blowouts with many more runs scored than allowed (+75). These Phillies are 18-17 in blowouts (which I can’t really wrap my mind around, feels much worse) and are at -21 in those games.

Maybe it’s because they get blown out by the class of the NL at home or whatever (LA, Atl) but I for one feel much worse about them and their quality and their chances than I can recall feeling at any point in 2008.

Go back and read some game threads (if you can stand it). We hated that team around this time that year.

Charlie Manuel is a bumbling idiot. Howard strikes out and is too lazy to adjust. Rollins doesn't hustle. Fire or trade em all!

All of these MEMORIES caused me to go back and take a look at the Phillies Septembers under Charlie Manuel.

Aggregate record: 138-84, .621 Winning percentage, translates to a 101-61 team in a 162 game schedule.

He never had a losing September. Worst September was 2011, when they went 16-14, with fully 10 of those games in garbage time. The losing streak then (ugh, in retrospect) sweeping the Braves. Take out those 10 and they were 13-7 in games that actually counted.

Why'd we fire him again?

I know Klentak isn't going anywhere, but this is criminal. From Gelb...

This is the reality: There are 111 pitchers who have made at least 50 starts from 2017-19, and Pivetta ranks 106th with a 5.42 ERA as a starter. Two of the pitchers below him — Jason Hammel and Bartolo Colon — have retired. Another, Matt Harvey, was just released. Jordan Zimmermann and Homer Bailey, the remaining two with higher ERAs than Pivetta, are sputtering toward the end of their high-priced contracts.

While Pivetta is 106th in ERA among those with 50 starts since 2017, Eflin is 93rd. And Velasquez is 94th.

The Phillies are pretty good about not letting info leak. All is quiet on the trade front regarding them. I feel like if they make a trade it will come out of no where.

pivetta seems good in the bullpen?

The B1G Piece wrote:I know Klentak isn't going anywhere, but this is criminal. From Gelb...

This is the reality: There are 111 pitchers who have made at least 50 starts from 2017-19, and Pivetta ranks 106th with a 5.42 ERA as a starter. Two of the pitchers below him — Jason Hammel and Bartolo Colon — have retired. Another, Matt Harvey, was just released. Jordan Zimmermann and Homer Bailey, the remaining two with higher ERAs than Pivetta, are sputtering toward the end of their high-priced contracts.

While Pivetta is 106th in ERA among those with 50 starts since 2017, Eflin is 93rd. And Velasquez is 94th.

Since the beginning of the award in 1956 the Phillies have originally signed and developed exactly one pitcher who has won a Cy Young Award, and he won only one and it was after he was traded to the Cubs at the age of 22: Fergie Jenkins.

CalvinBall wrote:pivetta seems good in the bullpen?

Yes he does so far. I hate him much less now. Hopefully it lasts.