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Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Monkeyboy » Thu Jul 25, 2019 18:52:49
yeh, especially if smyly has changed his approach a bit, which sounds like the case.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by The Savior » Thu Jul 25, 2019 20:57:32
I’m against trading bohm for the record.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Slowhand » Thu Jul 25, 2019 21:07:39
The Savior wrote:I’m against trading bohm for the record.
Depends on which record.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Chuckles » Thu Jul 25, 2019 21:09:53
Titlehungry wrote:I would have thrown Smyly tomorrow night
You must have a strong arm lol.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by my cousin mose » Thu Jul 25, 2019 21:28:21
Chuckles wrote:Titlehungry wrote:I would have thrown Smyly tomorrow night
You must have a strong arm lol.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Brantt » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:39:29
Salisbury says it's not out of the question Howard could be pitching for the Phillies in September.
Gelb followed up saying they were entertaining calling Sixto up last year but he got hurt.
Gelb followed up saying they were entertaining calling Sixto up last year but he got hurt.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Titlehungry » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52:54
Brantt wrote:Salisbury says it's not out of the question Howard could be pitching for the Phillies in September.
Gelb followed up saying they were entertaining calling Sixto up last year but he got hurt.
Get Howard and Medina in the four and five spot and trade for Blackmon or Puig and maybe a Ken Giles type
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Grotewold » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:57:29
Chuckles wrote:Titlehungry wrote:I would have thrown Smyly tomorrow night
You must have a strong arm lol.
livin up to that user name
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by WilliamC » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:01:17
Felipe Vazquez would be cool.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Benny Lava » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:44:36
Brantt wrote:Salisbury says it's not out of the question Howard could be pitching for the Phillies in September.
Gelb followed up saying they were entertaining calling Sixto up last year but he got hurt.
I find this hard to believe. Sixto was in A+ ball last season. How many pitchers make the jump from A to MLB? Especially on a team like the Phillies, who hesitate to call up players that are in AA or AAA.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by CFP » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:55:34
Benny Lava wrote:Brantt wrote:Salisbury says it's not out of the question Howard could be pitching for the Phillies in September.
Gelb followed up saying they were entertaining calling Sixto up last year but he got hurt.
Especially on a team like the Phillies, who hesitate to call up players that are in AA or AAA.
Feel like this has started to trend a bit differently, think this belief should die out soon.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Rockinghorse » Fri Jul 26, 2019 15:32:22
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by BigEd76 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 18:54:07
Mentioned on the NBCSP pregame:
1980 Phillies started 54-48
2008 Phillies started 54-48
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1980 Phillies started 54-48
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Brantt » Sat Jul 27, 2019 09:37:42
Baseball really is a crazy game.
We all loved the Segura and Realmuto trades when they happened but at this point both are looking like Klentak got raped.
We all loved the Segura and Realmuto trades when they happened but at this point both are looking like Klentak got raped.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by nycphils » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:16:47
Have to just wonder about the talent evaluation for both the draft and the minors - Crawford never given a chance really, but Franco given thousands of ABs in the majors; the Moniak/Randolph/Haseley trio, passing on some obvious choices like Senzel, Puk, etc.; the fact that the Hamels and Giles trades now look pretty weak on return (although that happens a lot in those kinds of deals for other teams too - the big fail was their evaluation of Appel and the best player they got in Alfaro got dealt away in a deal that looks pretty bad at the moment), etc.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by 1 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:05:40
Didn't Crawford have a habit of getting hurt and batting .150?
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by bleh » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:18:16
Well he's batting .167 in July.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by CFP » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:20:33
Klentak got caught with his pants down because Crawford is hitting .167 this month and made a nice play last night.
Santana was forced on Klentak by Middleton, so that was a mess to clean up. They got Segura out of it. Don’t think they got “raped” in the deal.
Santana was forced on Klentak by Middleton, so that was a mess to clean up. They got Segura out of it. Don’t think they got “raped” in the deal.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by MoBettle » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:24:24
Yeah the Crawford stuff seems like it’s going around because that play. It was pretty sweet tbf.
Of course the point stands that the Phillies don’t seem to develop talent well/guys play better elsewhere/worse here.
Of course the point stands that the Phillies don’t seem to develop talent well/guys play better elsewhere/worse here.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer
by Shore » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:26:45
Crawford cant' hit LHP, and he has no power, at all. It's tough to be a valuable everyday guy, in today's game, with no power. And he's either gonna look real good, but be limited to 450 PA per year, or his inability to hit LHP will drag down his overall numbers.
I'm still happy with the Segura deal.
Realmuto was always a huge risk - have to trade a lot to acquire a guy that you're then almost forced to extend, but is a 30-year-old catcher when you extend him. He's also a .280 hitter with 15-20 HR power, so he's not a star at the plate. People got overexcited over his road splits, and that he held the "best catcher in baseball" title. He's still an excellent player, overall, including his defense, so the "downside" is cost (acquisition+extension) and opportunity cost (Sanchez) rather than his performance. Those are easier to take, IMO.
I'm still happy with the Segura deal.
Realmuto was always a huge risk - have to trade a lot to acquire a guy that you're then almost forced to extend, but is a 30-year-old catcher when you extend him. He's also a .280 hitter with 15-20 HR power, so he's not a star at the plate. People got overexcited over his road splits, and that he held the "best catcher in baseball" title. He's still an excellent player, overall, including his defense, so the "downside" is cost (acquisition+extension) and opportunity cost (Sanchez) rather than his performance. Those are easier to take, IMO.
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