Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

by **SixerLed3** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 17:29:37

Peter Gammons:
There's so much pudding flung at the wall. Greinke to Phillies? "He's not waving his no-trade to Philadelphia," says one official. Per well-earned rights

https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/1154140347984953344

by **stevelxa476** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 17:35:37

1 wrote:Ballsy trade. Hope we got Acuña.

I think you misunderstood what I meant.....we sent all three for all the Braves. Corresponding moves to come.

by **momadance** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 17:37:09

SixerLed3 wrote:
Peter Gammons:
There's so much pudding flung at the wall. Greinke to Phillies? "He's not waving his no-trade to Philadelphia," says one official. Per well-earned rights

https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/1154140347984953344

He only has a 15 team list. Always assumed the Phillies were on it.

by **06hawkalum** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 17:37:18

stevelxa476 wrote:
1 wrote:Ballsy trade. Hope we got Acuña.

I think you misunderstood what I meant.....we sent all three for all the Braves. Corresponding moves to come.

Dunno...think we gave up too much.

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 17:57:35

So the Indians are looking for a top bat in return for Bauer. If Klentak is actually talking to them who does he have to give up? I figure it would have to be Bohm right?

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 18:51:17

Take 2/3 this weekend, get some arms and let’s fuckin go

by **Shadow** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 21:52:30

Despite all the noise the past week of a bunch of different names, I've heard the Phillies are still most focused on Minor and Ray. They've been in on them since the winter/spring and it hasn't changed. Doesn't mean they are going to trade for either of them, I just think those are the guys they are going to focus on first. After that, my guess is probably Boyd would be next on the list.

I really really hope they don't overpay, I don't think either are good enough to put a major dent in the farm system for.

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 21:55:40

If they make a move, need someone that’s signed through next season. Want Minor.

by **Shadow** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 22:00:46

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:If they make a move, need someone that’s signed through next season. Want Minor.

That's why they are focusing on guys under control. The downside is they will be more expensive. I really don't think emptying your chamber for guys like this is worth it, because if a true stud does hit the market in the winter or next season, then you definitely can't be in on them. I know Minor has been elite this season, but will it last? The Phillies like him and Ray a lot.

I think they are going to try to avoid taking back significant salary if possible, but if push comes to shove, I think Middleton would probably ok it, he wants to make the playoffs.

I'm very nervous they are going to push their chips in "too soon" and hurt their future.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 22:13:19

I tend to agree, but it’s not like they’ve got a wealth of great prospects knocking on the door either.

by **Bucky** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 23:18:08

06hawkalum wrote:
stevelxa476 wrote:
1 wrote:Ballsy trade. Hope we got Acuña.

I think you misunderstood what I meant.....we sent all three for all the Braves. Corresponding moves to come.

Dunno...think we have up too much.

it's like when you buy a complete year's box of baseball cards because you need 3 that are in there

by **WhiteyFan** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 08:48:38

Shadow wrote:I'm very nervous they are going to push their chips in "too soon" and hurt their future.

The chips were pushed when they signed Harp and traded JPC/Sixto. No reason to half-ass it now. Trade whatever it takes for Bauer/Boyd/Ray. We need arms. BAD.

by **momadance** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 09:38:34

Shadow wrote:Despite all the noise the past week of a bunch of different names, I've heard the Phillies are still most focused on Minor and Ray. They've been in on them since the winter/spring and it hasn't changed. Doesn't mean they are going to trade for either of them, I just think those are the guys they are going to focus on first. After that, my guess is probably Boyd would be next on the list.

I really really hope they don't overpay, I don't think either are good enough to put a major dent in the farm system for.

by **Bucky** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 09:39:47

WhiteyFan wrote:
Shadow wrote:I'm very nervous they are going to push their chips in "too soon" and hurt their future.

The chips were pushed when they signed Harp and traded JPC/Sixto. No reason to half-ass it now. Trade whatever it takes for Bauer/Boyd/Ray. We need arms. BAD.

Hunter, Nicasio, Neshek, Smyly are the only guys we could lose this winter to FA. So basically the whole team is back. No need to mortgage everything for 2019.

by **TempleFan22** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:14:08

Heard a month ago Middleton told Klentak to trade Bohm for MadBum. Klentak talked him out of it. Buckle up.

by **WhiteyFan** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:21:45

Bucky wrote:
WhiteyFan wrote:
Shadow wrote:I'm very nervous they are going to push their chips in "too soon" and hurt their future.

The chips were pushed when they signed Harp and traded JPC/Sixto. No reason to half-ass it now. Trade whatever it takes for Bauer/Boyd/Ray. We need arms. BAD.

Hunter, Nicasio, Neshek, Smyly are the only guys we could lose this winter to FA. So basically the whole team is back. No need to mortgage everything for 2019.

Getting controllable arms isnt mortgaging everything for 2019. We need actual major league starting pitchers (we currently have one) for the next 3 years more than we need prospects (other than Bohm, maybe).

by **wiivile** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:35:00

Sometimes I wonder how much of a team's record is based on the luck of when they face certain teams. We're about to play the Giants a bunch and they are red hot: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/284 ... m=referral

by **bleh** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:37:22

Tanner Roark would be a good target. He's on the Reds and is a free agent this year. And he shouldn't cost too much.

by **Titlehungry** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:23:37

I would have thrown Smyly tomorrow night just because Eflin is struggling and the Braves haven't seen Smyly so I like his chances better here

by **Stripes** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:04:18

Titlehungry wrote:I would have thrown Smyly tomorrow night just because Eflin is struggling and the Braves haven't seen Smyly so I like his chances better here

I was thinking the same thing, except Saturday rather than tomorrow

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