Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (politics)

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 21:55:02

Youseff wrote:no to all of that

I hope you're right brother, but I don't think so.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:05:43

mozartpc27 wrote:
Youseff wrote:no to all of that

I hope you're right brother, but I don't think so.

Republicans say they won't vote for Clinton but I have a feeling many of them secretly will if it's a close race.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:11:07

I thought you said I was going to secretly vote for Trump

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:20:26

Pipe bombs? in Elizabeth delaying the Northeast Corridor trains. Arrests in NYC. Seems like these people were fairly well trained with the sophistication of the bombs in Seaside and Chelsea, but also sorta sucked given the lack of mass murder. It's all quite unnerving.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:40:51

jerseyhoya wrote:I thought you said I was going to secretly vote for Trump

You're going to vote for Clinton. I know it.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:41:58

jerseyhoya wrote:Very interesting - NYT launching a poll that uses the voter file - Introducing the New York Times Upshot/Siena College Poll

Nice explanation of the differences between this (which is what campaigns do), and typical media polls.

I recognize no one else is as excited about this as I am, but I'll shoot for a prediction

Clinton 43-42-8-2; Clinton 47-44

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 00:48:06

I'll be honest, I'm a little concerned about going into Manhattan tomorrow morning.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 06:32:12

NYT/Upshot Florida

Just 41-40 Clinton in the 4-way ballot. I wonder if they pushed leaners. Either way, neat write up.

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 06:39:31

mozartpc27 wrote:
drsmooth wrote:the Drumpf Erroneous Reset Period of our political history needs to be repudiated. drumpf must not merely be defeated; he and everything about him - his awful family, his delusional "ideas", his numerous frauds & scams - must be expunged.

Why?

Imagine his behavior in the face of even "only" a modest rout; he's' sure to refuse to concede, sure to humiliate his disgusting family - to say nothing of the remains of the Republican party - in a ridiculous challenge of the election results. He's already signaled his likely tantrum. I hope (oxymoron alert) Republican leadership is prepared to put a foot up punkinhead's flaccid ass within hours of polls closing

My preference would be for some sort of physical humiliation in the public square - some sort of communal Two Minutes Hate denigration of every aspect of his repulsive being - but this is America, so we'll probably just quickly forget he ever existed, which be the best resolution after all.

Well I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Trump is going to win, so get ready.

Clinton is just so bad at this. I can't get over that "basket of delporables" comment, in the election cycle IMMEDIATELY folowing the "47%" comment. It's like she's mentally disabled.

You thought he didn't have a chance in the primary, now you are pissing your drawers about him.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 07:11:06

mozartpc27 wrote:Well I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Trump is going to win, so get ready.

Clinton is just so bad at this. I can't get over that "basket of delporables" comment, in the election cycle IMMEDIATELY folowing the "47%" comment. It's like she's mentally disabled.

HuffPo wrote:Pence was asked during his press conference if he condemned the word “vice” on Christian principles, why then didn’t he condemn the Ku Klux Klan, a white supremacist organization, that openly participates in immoral and wicked behavior?

“I would,” he answered. “But if we start criticizing deplorables, we run the risk of losing half our voters.”

it's like half of them are mentally disabled

btw your spelling is delporable

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 07:42:14

You know that article isn't real, right?

Also my spelling is expelmenary.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 07:45:35

pacino wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
drsmooth wrote:the Drumpf Erroneous Reset Period of our political history needs to be repudiated. drumpf must not merely be defeated; he and everything about him - his awful family, his delusional "ideas", his numerous frauds & scams - must be expunged.

Why?

Imagine his behavior in the face of even "only" a modest rout; he's' sure to refuse to concede, sure to humiliate his disgusting family - to say nothing of the remains of the Republican party - in a ridiculous challenge of the election results. He's already signaled his likely tantrum. I hope (oxymoron alert) Republican leadership is prepared to put a foot up punkinhead's flaccid ass within hours of polls closing

My preference would be for some sort of physical humiliation in the public square - some sort of communal Two Minutes Hate denigration of every aspect of his repulsive being - but this is America, so we'll probably just quickly forget he ever existed, which be the best resolution after all.

Well I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Trump is going to win, so get ready.

Clinton is just so bad at this. I can't get over that "basket of delporables" comment, in the election cycle IMMEDIATELY folowing the "47%" comment. It's like she's mentally disabled.

You thought he didn't have a chance in the primary, now you are pissing your drawers about him.

The times they are a-changin'!

I'd like to think demographics will bail out Clinton, but increasingly the dynamic seems to me to be this:

(1)Fewer people are going to come out and vote Democratic than in 2008 (in the sense of turnout, Clinton does not generate enthusiasm)

(2)Some who voted for Romney will vote Clinton
(3)Many more who voted for Obama twice will vote Trump in PA, OH, MI.

I could see her winning the popular vote by a point or more and losing the EC.

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 07:49:06

Trump will generate Democratic turnout.
I don't think there's near as many Democrats who will cross over to vote for Trump that didn't already do that for McCain/Romney. Most people voting for Trump likely didn't vote for Obama. That's sort of the point of his candidacy.
She will win PA.

I've been warning for weeks now that complacency will result in President Donald. I saw lots of positive signs both locally and nationwide that people are getting off their collective butts

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 08:47:56

jerseyhoya wrote:NYT/Upshot Florida

Just 41-40 Clinton in the 4-way ballot. I wonder if they pushed leaners. Either way, neat write up.

doesnt feel great to be white after reading that

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 08:50:28

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:NYT/Upshot Florida

Just 41-40 Clinton in the 4-way ballot. I wonder if they pushed leaners. Either way, neat write up.

doesnt feel great to be white after reading that

old white males be voting for Trump like it's a requirement

by **JUburton** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 08:59:54

Think it's somewhat encouraging that the 4-way is 41-40 and H2H is 43-43. Within the MOE and all that but more people sticking with Clinton when the options are broadened. This is unfounded and getting into 'people will come to their senses when they vote for Brexit' territory but my guess would be 3rd party support dwindles in the next 6 weeks from the 15ish% we're seeing now...and they break more for Clinton.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 09:18:04

pacino wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:NYT/Upshot Florida

Just 41-40 Clinton in the 4-way ballot. I wonder if they pushed leaners. Either way, neat write up.

doesnt feel great to be white after reading that

old white males be voting for Trump like it's a requirement

Not all of us.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 09:26:20

JUburton wrote:Think it's somewhat encouraging that the 4-way is 41-40 and H2H is 43-43. Within the MOE and all that but more people sticking with Clinton when the options are broadened. This is unfounded and getting into 'people will come to their senses when they vote for Brexit' territory but my guess would be 3rd party support dwindles in the next 6 weeks from the 15ish% we're seeing now...and they break more for Clinton.

Most polls have been suggesting that with Clinton doing better in the forced choice head to head matchup with Trump rather than the full ballot with Johnson and Stein, but this one is showing the opposite, so I'm not sure that is encouraging.

by **JUburton** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 09:27:19

jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:Think it's somewhat encouraging that the 4-way is 41-40 and H2H is 43-43. Within the MOE and all that but more people sticking with Clinton when the options are broadened. This is unfounded and getting into 'people will come to their senses when they vote for Brexit' territory but my guess would be 3rd party support dwindles in the next 6 weeks from the 15ish% we're seeing now...and they break more for Clinton.

Most polls have been suggesting that with Clinton doing better in the forced choice head to head matchup with Trump rather than the full ballot with Johnson and Stein, but this one is showing the opposite, so I'm not sure that is encouraging.

well that's why i caveated it. it's likely just noise but who knows with the whole different methodology they're using.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 09:33:03

First debate is one week from today. I don't imagine much will change between now and then. Need a decisive victory, Hillary.

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