Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (politics)

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:30:20

jamiethekiller wrote:yeah, she needs to win PA. not philadelphia. get out and actually campaign in some of these other areas. its a pretty big state!

It's about stimulating turnout in the reliably Dem areas, not winning a particular region.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:30:40

JUburton wrote:that usc/la times poll. lol.

(trump +7, up to like 20% support among african americans)

My favorite detail is his strong lead with 18-34 year olds in the poll

The trend is still unsettling

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:31:05

What Snowden Gets Wrong

preview: a lot

homework for any fellow liberals that do not believe Snowden could get clemency: bring this up at a gathering of fellow liberals. try to sway one person. when you fail, drink.

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:31:44

jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:that usc/la times poll. lol.

(trump +7, up to like 20% support among african americans)

My favorite detail is his strong lead with 18-34 year olds in the poll

The trend is still unsettling

I saw that and wondered who the hell was polled. complete outlier to every other poll or any anecdote i know

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:32:59

pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:that usc/la times poll. lol.

(trump +7, up to like 20% support among african americans)

My favorite detail is his strong lead with 18-34 year olds in the poll

The trend is still unsettling

I saw that and wondered who the hell was polled. complete outlier to every other poll or any anecdote i know

It's gotten to the point that we can stop calling USC/LA Times a "poll" and start referring to it as a "survey," because there's nothing scientific or representative about it.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:37:00

they got some guy in custody on the NYC bomb thing

by **BigEd76** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:42:02

Ahmad Khan Rahami, US citizen of Afghan descent

by **smitty** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:42:25

JFLNYC wrote:
pacino wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:NYT/Upshot Florida

Just 41-40 Clinton in the 4-way ballot. I wonder if they pushed leaners. Either way, neat write up.

doesnt feel great to be white after reading that

old white males be voting for Trump like it's a requirement

Not all of us.

by **Slowhand** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:45:54

BigEd76 wrote:Ahmad Khan Rahami, US citizen of Afghan descent

Trump told us this would happen.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:51:20

I cannot stress this enough.

Snowden is the worst traitor we've had since the Rosenberg's.

He will never be pardoned. If he ever comes back to the States, he will be arrested the moment he steps off the plane. He will get maximum sentences for his crimes.

pacino wrote:What Snowden Gets Wrong

preview: a lot

homework for any fellow liberals that do not believe Snowden could get clemency: bring this up at a gathering of fellow liberals. try to sway one person. when you fail, drink.

by **smitty** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:59:38

Luzinski's Gut wrote:I cannot stress this enough.

Snowden is the worst traitor we've had since the Rosenberg's.

He will never be pardoned. If he ever comes back to the States, he will be arrested the moment he steps off the plane. He will get maximum sentences for his crimes.

pacino wrote:What Snowden Gets Wrong

preview: a lot

homework for any fellow liberals that do not believe Snowden could get clemency: bring this up at a gathering of fellow liberals. try to sway one person. when you fail, drink.

You're forgetting about the Walkers.

https://news.usni.org/2014/09/02/john-w ... t-betrayal

Fixed link.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:00:17

No I didn't.

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:02:14

i didnt learn until just recently that he actually stole the test in order to get access to the NSA.

then, there's this:

But there are gaps in this tale. First, look at a globe of the Earth: If you want to fly from Hong Kong to Central America, there are far more efficient routes than going through Moscow. Second, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told the Guardian in 2015 that he’d urged Snowden to go no farther than Russia, where he could best be protected from CIA agents. (It is interesting, in this regard, that Snowden’s flight was arranged by WikiLeaks and that he was accompanied on the plane by WikiLeaks editor Sarah Harrison.) Third, the suspension of his U.S. passport is irrelevant; if the Russians wanted Snowden to leave, they could have issued him a temporary visa, allowing him access to a plane out of the country—and customs officers in Havana could have granted him an entry visa upon his arrival. Fourth, Snowden stayed on in Hong Kong for 12 days after leaving his hotel. Not long after his arrival in Moscow, the Russian newspaper Kommersant, quoting unnamed foreign ministry officials, reported that Snowden had spent three of those days in Russia’s Hong Kong consulate.

i've known for some time he was exploited by Assange, but it looks like Russia obviously took advantage of his panicked state, too.

edit: and yes, i agree with LG (obviously he knows more than I). indiscriminate leaking does not garner you whistleblower status. there isn't a part where the good outweighs the bad that they factor into your charges on a crime of this scale.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:03:15

Luzinski's Gut wrote:I cannot stress this enough.

Snowden is the worst traitor we've had since the Rosenberg's.

General, it feels like you're in a pretty good position to assess this rationally.

And the rest of us aren't, for many reasons, but at least one of which is that we seem to conduct our wars.... more in secret nowadays, without even the ritual of Congressional oversight, than we used to. Also that a component of this newfangled warfare seems to involve having authorized snoopers up in our underwear drawers.

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:08:03

Slowhand wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Ahmad Khan Rahami, US citizen of Afghan descent

Trump told us this would happen.

#trashcanghazi

if we center our lives around fear of the unknown we may as well live on our basements and board up the windows.

by **JUburton** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:16:08

https://twitter.com/jonallendc/status/7 ... 9308311552

NYT: Federal prosecutors say Chris Christie knew about bridge lane closings in real time.

hehehehehe

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:18:31

JUburton wrote:https://twitter.com/jonallendc/status/777897209308311552

NYT: Federal prosecutors say Chris Christie knew about bridge lane closings in real time.

hehehehehe

The Donald called it and hired Christie to be the guy that fills a Trump administration full of staffers and cabinet members:

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:19:26

smitty wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:I cannot stress this enough.

Snowden is the worst traitor we've had since the Rosenberg's.

He will never be pardoned. If he ever comes back to the States, he will be arrested the moment he steps off the plane. He will get maximum sentences for his crimes.

pacino wrote:What Snowden Gets Wrong

preview: a lot

homework for any fellow liberals that do not believe Snowden could get clemency: bring this up at a gathering of fellow liberals. try to sway one person. when you fail, drink.

You're forgetting about the Walkers.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quomusl.shtml

Stan The Man was a traitor?! Say it ain't so :cry:

by **Bucky** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:21:40

by **smitty** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:29:13

pacino wrote:
smitty wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:I cannot stress this enough.

Snowden is the worst traitor we've had since the Rosenberg's.

He will never be pardoned. If he ever comes back to the States, he will be arrested the moment he steps off the plane. He will get maximum sentences for his crimes.

pacino wrote:What Snowden Gets Wrong

preview: a lot

homework for any fellow liberals that do not believe Snowden could get clemency: bring this up at a gathering of fellow liberals. try to sway one person. when you fail, drink.

You're forgetting about the Walkers.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quomusl.shtml

Stan The Man was a traitor?! Say it ain't so

It ain't so. Forgot to copy/paste the correct link. Here it is.

https://news.usni.org/2014/09/02/john-w ... t-betrayal

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