traderdave wrote:

thephan wrote:From the Post-

Cuccinelli never inched away from his political roots, insisting to the end that his campaign should be read as a referendum on Obama, big government, cronyism and the health care law.

I still marvel at the stupidity of going down with the ship with this mindset and augemented public statements.

I don't know about that (although I could just be misunderstanding what you are saying). One of the things I cannot stand about [most] politicians is their maddening habit of changing their philosophy or position on issues to suit the crowd to which they are speaking. Now Cuccinelli is clearly a nut but I have to give him props for being who he is throughout the process. I would like to think that if I ever decide to run for a higher office I will not bend my core values just because I am losing.

jerseyhoya wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:This was republicans best chance to take a legislative branch in New Jersey, and they couldn't pull it off. Lot of incompetence from the GOP down here. We were expecting a much closer race, and the fact that it wasn't is on them.

That being said, the GOP window in NJ is closing as fast as the phillies window did. Also I am drunk. Victory!

We have the governor's office, which is the most powerful in the country, for four more years.

It was always going to be a huge lift to pick up seats. Between the NJEA and other outside groups, Democratic legislative candidates spent tens of millions more than GOP ones. Plus the district lines are terrible for us. GOP Senate candidates won 65,000 more votes than Democratic ones statewide, and we only ended up with 40% of the seats. All 16 Republican Senate candidates who won yesterday got at least 60% of the vote.

Those district lines and money disparity are going to continue. The election environment is not going to be better for GOP senate and assembly races than this was, probably ever.

GOP has really bad footing for the next two elections, especially with Christie turning his efforts nationally sometime in 2015.

But it's not like we're going to lose any of our seats. The map is stuck. The Democrats designed it that way. I wasn't objecting to you saying this was the best chance Republicans had to take a branch of government, but your part about that being the GOP's fault.

thephan wrote:The AG race is all about provisional ballots now. Recount will follow. With some luck a result will be called about Thanksgiving with certification for Christmas.

drsmooth wrote:you wanted to say huge c'mon admit it

drsmooth wrote:
1st, congrats on your electoral win, your honor ("your highness"? "your councilship"? "your nobilitude"? "hey, mac"? what's our correct form of address now?)

2nd, it's one thing for Cooch to stick to his own beliefs, and another to imagine he's not now the governor-apparent for reasons other than his ardent sharing of those beliefs.

cause basically, he crazy

traderdave wrote:

drsmooth wrote:
1st, congrats on your electoral win, your honor ("your highness"? "your councilship"? "your nobilitude"? "hey, mac"? what's our correct form of address now?)

2nd, it's one thing for Cooch to stick to his own beliefs, and another to imagine he's not now the governor-apparent for reasons other than his ardent sharing of those beliefs.

cause basically, he crazy

Thank you - "Hey, Mac" will more than suffice given the position to which I was elected. I get where you are coming from on Cooch. I suppose even worse than somebody who constantly changes their stripes is somebody who lives in a perpetual state of fantasy. I guess Barbara Buono is also a resident given her feeling that her epic loss can be blamed on a lack of support from the NJ Dems. The fact is that she had no prayer to begin with and the power brokers did not want to hitch their wagon to a loser. She definitely reserved a big fuck you for Norcross, etc. in her concession speech last night.

drsmooth wrote:

traderdave wrote:

drsmooth wrote:
1st, congrats on your electoral win, your honor ("your highness"? "your councilship"? "your nobilitude"? "hey, mac"? what's our correct form of address now?)

2nd, it's one thing for Cooch to stick to his own beliefs, and another to imagine he's not now the governor-apparent for reasons other than his ardent sharing of those beliefs.

cause basically, he crazy

Thank you - "Hey, Mac" will more than suffice given the position to which I was elected. I get where you are coming from on Cooch. I suppose even worse than somebody who constantly changes their stripes is somebody who lives in a perpetual state of fantasy. I guess Barbara Buono is also a resident given her feeling that her epic loss can be blamed on a lack of support from the NJ Dems. The fact is that she had no prayer to begin with and the power brokers did not want to hitch their wagon to a loser. She definitely reserved a big fuck you for Norcross, etc. in her concession speech last night.

hmmm...if she has hopes for an ongoing NJ political career she, uh, should probably not do that

td11 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Keeping voter rolls up to date is standard and important, and trumping it up like what they did is voter suppression is embarrassing. They only eliminated people who had registered to vote in another state after their last time casting a ballot in Virginia. In the rare case a person was incorrectly pushed off, they could just cast a provisional ballot, but the vast majority of people have moved out of the state.

At least two Virginia voter registrars postponed removing names from voter rolls until after the election. Lawrence Haake III, Chesterfield County general registrar, told the Richmond Times-Dispatch that of the 2,200 voters’ names he was told to purge, he found more than 170 mistakes among approximately 1,000 listed voters. Haake said the data mistakenly included voters whose most recent voter registration took place in Virginia.

http://washingtoninformer.com/news/2013 ... lls-purge/

170+ out of 1000 seems like a lot of errors. and most of the registrars were probably not as conscientious as this guy and just went with the ruling. in any case, you know as well as i do that most people who are told their names are off the voter roll ain't gonna bother sending in a provisional ballot for local elections.

but the main point remains that both candidates were absolutely terrible.

The lawsuit stemmed from an anti-voter fraud program, known sometimes by the shorthand Crosscheck, that allows officials in the states that use it to compare voter rolls and weed out those who are registered in more than one place. This year, the program flagged more than 300,000 names, and the state forwarded more than 57,000 of those to local election officials for further review and possible removal.

...

Lief said that about 38,000 people were ultimately removed from the list because they had registered to vote in another state after their last voting activity in Virginia and that no one else was expected to be taken off the rolls. He conceded that three voters — the cases highlighted by the Democratic Party — were purged from the rolls improperly but noted that they had since been restored.

Anyone else who might have been removed improperly, he said, could cast a provisional ballot.

Youseff wrote:literally no one of the 20ish people I've asked in my NYC based office voted for mayor. I asked a few people casually initially and it since most of those people had no idea there was a mayoral election it snowballed from there.

jerseyhoya wrote:I asked my students in my two sections today if anyone voted yesterday, and only one person raised their hand total.