Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 06, 2013 22:58:40

Bucky wrote:Congrats Judge Beez!


wait wait wait huh
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 06, 2013 23:16:25

drsmooth wrote:as some here are probably aware, there has recently been a spate of controversy about the operational shortcomings of the technical apparatus undergirding an aspect of the Affordable Care Act. The practically incessant "news media" devotion to this wrenching national calamity over the past month has had the practical effect of - well, not having much of any practical effect on peoples' opinions about the Act:

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The last poll taken started the last day of the shutdown, so the ACA crap was largely overshadowed for the first bit of the sample. This month's version should be telling if support is holding or slipping seriously.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 06, 2013 23:27:04

jerseyhoya wrote:The last poll taken started the last day of the shutdown, so the ACA crap was largely overshadowed for the first bit of the sample. This month's version should be telling if support is holding or slipping seriously.


ooohhhkey dokey

please tell me you're not buying the wan hope that legitimate republican candidates will be able to ride Healthcare.govgate to stirring victories somewhere?
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 06, 2013 23:53:42

kimbatiste wrote:Jonathan Tamari‏@JonathanTamari7m
RT @kkondik: NRCC sends out statement about Runyan retirement. So, officially, Crystal Ball moves NJ-3 from Safe Republican to Toss-up

Kinda random timing on the retirement, but it's not a big shock. I don't think the job has been what he thought it would be when he ran.

Toss up is very generous to Dems. Very much the GOP's race to lose.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 06, 2013 23:54:41

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:The last poll taken started the last day of the shutdown, so the ACA crap was largely overshadowed for the first bit of the sample. This month's version should be telling if support is holding or slipping seriously.


ooohhhkey dokey

please tell me you're not buying the wan hope that legitimate republican candidates will be able to ride Healthcare.govgate to stirring victories somewhere?

If it's all fixed by November 30th, then it'll probably be mostly forgotten by next November, but if the problems linger, then sure it'll help the GOP win some races.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Thu Nov 07, 2013 07:57:05

jerseyhoya wrote:
Youseff wrote:literally no one of the 20ish people I've asked in my NYC based office voted for mayor. I asked a few people casually initially and it since most of those people had no idea there was a mayoral election it snowballed from there.

I asked my students in my two sections today if anyone voted yesterday, and only one person raised their hand total.


This makes me really sad and a bit angry. I could not wait to vote for the first time and I have only missed an election here and there since (and almost always for a good reason). I always thought part of the reason why the rich run everything (other than, of course, having gobs of money) is that the not-so-rich do give a fuck enough to be part of the process. Their attitude of "nothing ever changes" and "my vote doesn't matter" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Get involved people (not speaking to anyone on this board).


"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 07, 2013 09:35:06

TenuredVulture wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
traderdave wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
1st, congrats on your electoral win, your honor ("your highness"? "your councilship"? "your nobilitude"? "hey, mac"? what's our correct form of address now?)

2nd, it's one thing for Cooch to stick to his own beliefs, and another to imagine he's not now the governor-apparent for reasons other than his ardent sharing of those beliefs.

cause basically, he crazy


Thank you - "Hey, Mac" will more than suffice given the position to which I was elected. :wink: I get where you are coming from on Cooch. I suppose even worse than somebody who constantly changes their stripes is somebody who lives in a perpetual state of fantasy. I guess Barbara Buono is also a resident given her feeling that her epic loss can be blamed on a lack of support from the NJ Dems. The fact is that she had no prayer to begin with and the power brokers did not want to hitch their wagon to a loser. She definitely reserved a big #$!&@ you for Norcross, etc. in her concession speech last night.




hmmm...if she has hopes for an ongoing NJ political career she, uh, should probably not do that

Norcross can't live forever...or can he?

seems like she's completely correct, based on the money. they certainly could've made it closer if they chose to help her out a little bit. but, why back a message you agree with when you can give up without trying? OBama didn't help, D Govs didn't help, local bosses didn't help, she was out there on her own. no wonder she feels spurned.
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:34:00

That's the thing, though; she really didn't have much of a message except "Christie sucks". It is going to be tough sledding when you decide to be the anti-Christie candidate when Christie is one of the most popular governors this state has ever had. She really seemed to just be going through the motions the entire time. I think Christie could have been vulnerable on a few issues - such as unemployment, slow economic growth, continuing Sandy issues, backroom contracts awarded to service providers - but she never made an inch of hay with any of them.

Now, it is possible, maybe even probable, that her campaign efforts were molded by the lack of establishment support she received, i.e. no money for huge events or commercials, etc. but if you are serious about the office you are seeking you have to try a bit harder than she did. I can vaguely remember only a single commercial featuring Buono and she made maybe one or two stops to South Jersey, including so-dark-blue-it-is-black Camden County, which she lost by 11 points.

She said they were "in it to win it, baby" but she seemed to barely break a sweat. See this:

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/busine ... 953435.php


On a different topic, what is this about "Judge Beez"?

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29:21

viewtopic.php_p=1865755#p1865755

td11 wrote:Pretty sure robert costa is gonna get murked for his shutdown reporting the last few weeks. Wonder where he'll end up next


it's the washington post.

and serial plagiarist rand paul's column got dropped by wapo, but don't worry he'll be plying his trade at breitbart now
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:31:07

you can always just read paul's column a week ahead of time at the heritage foundation website
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:40:36

:get um:
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:41:27

michael burgess (R, TX): shit-4-dick

It's a good idea for TX not to engage Medicaid reform because well, doctors like to make more money than they can make treating poor people, so without the Medicaid $ they'll get LESS money and treat FEWER people and that will be good for well, it's the website, and freedom
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Nov 07, 2013 13:54:30

the rand paul plagiarizing thing is so great. i still think my favorite part is he first got caught ripping a wikipedia entry about gattaca. thats one of those things you cant make up.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 07, 2013 14:15:49

my favorite part is a US senator using the term 'haters'
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Nov 07, 2013 14:52:18

I don't think the plagiarism stuff will have any lasting impact as a stand alone issue, but it's another sign (along with the Southern Avenger thing) that Rand has inherited his father's lack of interest/ability/desire to hire competent staff. Not a good trait if you want people to take you seriously as a potential President.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Nov 07, 2013 16:22:10

td11 wrote:viewtopic.php_p=1865755#p1865755

td11 wrote:Pretty sure robert costa is gonna get murked for his shutdown reporting the last few weeks. Wonder where he'll end up next


it's the washington post.

and serial plagiarist rand paul's column got dropped by wapo, but don't worry he'll be plying his trade at breitbart now

Washington Times, not Post.

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 16:44:52

oops, thanks
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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Fri Nov 08, 2013 17:08:59

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Re: Last I Checked, It's still 2013 - Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 09, 2013 01:27:19

Watching Ted Cruz on Jay Leno, and he emphasized states should be allowed to make their own decisions on gay marriage

Holy crap how far this issue has come in the past decade+

Leno was tough on him. Thought he did pretty well. A bit more likable in that forum than I expected.

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