jerseyhoya wrote:Sam Feist ‏@SamFeistCNN
More of CNN post debate Poll: Can Obama handle job of Cmdr. in Chief? Yes: 63%. Can Romney? Yes: 60%. A draw on that Q.

Pretty much what Mitt seemed to be going for tonight.

td11 wrote:

cshort wrote:

td11 wrote:

cshort wrote:I think Obama hurt him on the auto bit, but Romney was right about his op-ed

From the op-ed

The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.

how about the last line, though:

In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

he was against the bailout

Romney never said he wasn't against the bailout. He said he wanted a managed bankruptcy with federal guarantees. He wanted someone else to write the check first before putting the government on the hook.

Sorry, he was against the federal bailout that worked

philliesphhan wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Remember that focus on the family letter from 2008 pretending to be from the future? Well that day is today. Go back and read it for a laugh and a scare.

(25) Israel: “The home of the brave”? In mid-2010, Iran launched a nuclear bomb that
exploded in the middle of Tel Aviv, destroying much of that city.

SK790 wrote:Hey my ballot came in the mail today!

Saw earlier today that gay marriage and pot legalization are polling really well here. Also, that McKenna is even with Inslee in the polls.

dajafi wrote:

gr wrote:I'd be curious what Dajafi thinks of Obamas repeated education talking points which found to be outdated and underwhelming.

Eh, you and I aren't really the target audience here. Plus talking points as a rule don't usually lend themselves to depth and nuance. FWIW, I suspect he could go a lot deeper in small-group conversation, and I think he shares the view that human capital is the biggest long-term driver of economic success.

(And compared to the tripe both of them spout on workforce policy, their education platforms are immaculate.)

Also, I'm not sure what the Republicans want to do on education, other than break teachers unions, put student loans back in the for-profit realm and, sometimes, voucherize everything and/or shutter the federal Department of Education. For years I've believed that education could be a killer issue for the Rs, more or less running the Michelle Rhee playbook (and yes, selected liberal friends, I know you don't like Michelle Rhee) and pledging to professionalize the teaching, um, profession. That this never happens kind of reaffirms my view that they ultimately don't give a #$!&@ about what happens to poor kids, whose parents don't vote for them anyway.

As usual with the Democrats, I find their education policies preferable but not sufficient. I'm going to a panel tomorrow with Arne Duncan and a bunch of business and education big shots, so hopefully that will yield some greater substance. They've already given us props in their CTE Blueprint, which Bloomberg "endorsed" via Tweet back in spring; perhaps sadly, I'm now seeing a slight professional self-interest in this race as well as the whole future-of-our-civilization thing.

PPP's post debate poll in the swing states, conducted on behalf of Americans United for Change, finds that Barack Obama was the big winner in tonight's face off. 53% of those surveyed in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin think Obama was the winner to 42% who pick Romney.

Obama's winning margin among critical independent voters was even larger than his overall win, with 55% of them picking him as the winner to 40% for Romney. The sense that Obama was the winner is pretty universal across different demographics groups- women (57/39), men (48/45), Hispanics (69/29), African Americans (87/13), whites (49/45), young voters (55/40), and seniors (53/43) all think Obama came out ahead tonight.

CalvinBall wrote:ppp also has a tweet that says 37 percent more likely 31 less likely for obama?

CalvinBall wrote:i just dont know how you are reading the ppp stuff. looks like obama won pretty handily.

CalvinBall wrote:i just dont know how you are reading the ppp stuff. looks like obama won pretty handily.

PPP wrote:Romney, despite losing, came out with 38% of voters now saying they're more likely to vote for him to 35% who say they're less likely to for a +3 positive spread. Obama just came out even better with 37% of voters saying they're more likely to vote for him to 31% who are less likely to for a +6 spread.

pacino wrote:wow, is that for real? i cant even imagine ann saying something like that.

pacino wrote:wow, is that for real? i cant even imagine ann saying something like that.