Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:17:40

John Kerry ‏@JohnKerry
Mitt apparently had no binders on foreign policy

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby VoxOrion » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:17:59

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:18:30

damn, i wasnt quick enough
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:18:35

VoxOrion wrote:Four posts written and deleted. Just wanted to share that :)

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby Woody » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:18:43

smitty change your avatar to a negro leaguer
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:19:14

The Dude wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Baby Boomers invented, then ruined, rock and roll.


is this another weird music rule of yours


Maybe. It's not a rule though, more of an observation.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:19:46

problem is they didn't invent it, and it's not ruined. but carry on
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:20:13

pacino wrote:
smitty wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
smitty wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:The Baby Boomer generation is sneaky racist in my experience. You'l be talking with one of them, everything will be reasonable - they might even lean right, but it seems like reasonable right - and then WHAM!!!! There comes the racism.

This has happened to me with someone who I thought was one of my most educated, progressive older relatives. No doubt she is, mostly. But man, there is something seriously wrong with that generation of people when it comes to race (I can tell you that my experience with my aunt, while easily the single most shocking, is not in any way isolated in my experience).


Dude you need to broaden your experience.


Yeah, I know. Blaming all baby boomers is my way of saying to myself "It's not just my family that has all these stupid racists in it."

Seriously :(


I dig where your at my man.

But my generation was big into Civil Rights and all that and many of us still are.

And there are sneaky racists in my generation as well so you're right about that. But there are plenty of racists in every generation to go around. Us right thinking folks need to stay strong!!!!

my grandmother knew how to be a racist. she picked puerto ricans and stuck with 'em. why spread the hate around when you can concentrate on one group only? she liked black people and 'those nice jews' and such. even voted for obama before she died. luckily he wasnt rodriguez, i guess?

oh yeah, blacks she knew were 'hard workers' unlike puerto ricans who 'played loud music all day'. by puerto ricans i think she meant the 17yr old kid across the street from her.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby dajafi » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:20:24

gr wrote:I'd be curious what Dajafi thinks of Obamas repeated education talking points which found to be outdated and underwhelming.


Eh, you and I aren't really the target audience here. Plus talking points as a rule don't usually lend themselves to depth and nuance. FWIW, I suspect he could go a lot deeper in small-group conversation, and I think he shares the view that human capital is the biggest long-term driver of economic success.

(And compared to the tripe both of them spout on workforce policy, their education platforms are immaculate.)

Also, I'm not sure what the Republicans want to do on education, other than break teachers unions, put student loans back in the for-profit realm and, sometimes, voucherize everything and/or shutter the federal Department of Education. For years I've believed that education could be a killer issue for the Rs, more or less running the Michelle Rhee playbook (and yes, selected liberal friends, I know you don't like Michelle Rhee) and pledging to professionalize the teaching, um, profession. That this never happens kind of reaffirms my view that they ultimately don't give a shit about what happens to poor kids, whose parents don't vote for them anyway.

As usual with the Democrats, I find their education policies preferable but not sufficient. I'm going to a panel tomorrow with Arne Duncan and a bunch of business and education big shots, so hopefully that will yield some greater substance. They've already given us props in their CTE Blueprint, which Bloomberg "endorsed" via Tweet back in spring; perhaps sadly, I'm now seeing a slight professional self-interest in this race as well as the whole future-of-our-civilization thing.

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:20:40

The Dude wrote:problem is they didn't invent it, and it's not ruined. but carry on

black keys and killers, baby
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:21:01

what does your meemaw have to do with boomers? i think we all have a racist grandparent
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby VoxOrion » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:21:39

jerseyhoya wrote:
VoxOrion wrote:Four posts written and deleted. Just wanted to share that :)

Do it! Only two weeks left. Eject when it's over.


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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:22:19

dajafi wrote:
gr wrote:I'd be curious what Dajafi thinks of Obamas repeated education talking points which found to be outdated and underwhelming.


Eh, you and I aren't really the target audience here. Plus talking points as a rule don't usually lend themselves to depth and nuance. FWIW, I suspect he could go a lot deeper in small-group conversation, and I think he shares the view that human capital is the biggest long-term driver of economic success.

(And compared to the tripe both of them spout on workforce policy, their education platforms are immaculate.)

Also, I'm not sure what the Republicans want to do on education, other than break teachers unions, put student loans back in the for-profit realm and, sometimes, voucherize everything and/or shutter the federal Department of Education. For years I've believed that education could be a killer issue for the Rs, more or less running the Michelle Rhee playbook (and yes, selected liberal friends, I know you don't like Michelle Rhee) and pledging to professionalize the teaching, um, profession. That this never happens kind of reaffirms my view that they ultimately don't give a #$!&@ about what happens to poor kids, whose parents don't vote for them anyway.

As usual with the Democrats, I find their education policies preferable but not sufficient. I'm going to a panel tomorrow with Arne Duncan and a bunch of business and education big shots, so hopefully that will yield some greater substance. They've already given us props in their CTE Blueprint, which Bloomberg "endorsed" via Tweet back in spring; perhaps sadly, I'm now seeing a slight professional self-interest in this race as well as the whole future-of-our-civilization thing.

my only comment, as i'm out of my depth on this issue, is that by having arne duncan as his main man on this, he is basically saying that he's very pro 'merit-pay', just not in the absolute terms that rhee decides that merit-pay is.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:22:36

The Dude wrote:what does your meemaw have to do with boomers? i think we all have a racist grandparent

she was a boomer, right at the beginning.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:22:58

The Dude wrote:problem is they didn't invent it, and it's not ruined. but carry on


In a way, it ties in with their racism though, because in their racism, they erased black people from rock in the late 70s and 80s. According to them, black people could only play disco or soul or r&b, or be back up singers and none of that music was rock. Unless they were named Hendrix. And so you never heard black people on WMMR and similarly formatted stations in the late 70s and 80s.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby SK790 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:36:56

Hey my ballot came in the mail today!

Saw earlier today that gay marriage and pot legalization are polling really well here. Also, that McKenna is even with Inslee in the polls.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby philliesphhan » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:38:30

CalvinBall wrote:Remember that focus on the family letter from 2008 pretending to be from the future? Well that day is today. Go back and read it for a laugh and a scare.


(18) Pornography: “The land of the free”? It’s almost impossible to keep children from
seeing pornography. The Supreme Court in 2011 nullified all Federal Communications
Commission restrictions on obscene speech or visual content in radio and television broadcasts.
As a result, television programs at all hours of the day contain explicit portrayals of sexual acts.


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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:38:34

TenuredVulture wrote:
The Dude wrote:problem is they didn't invent it, and it's not ruined. but carry on


In a way, it ties in with their racism though, because in their racism, they erased black people from rock in the late 70s and 80s. According to them, black people could only play disco or soul or r&b, or be back up singers and none of that music was rock. Unless they were named Hendrix. And so you never heard black people on WMMR and similarly formatted stations in the late 70s and 80s.


Wow.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:38:56

pacino wrote:
The Dude wrote:what does your meemaw have to do with boomers? i think we all have a racist grandparent

she was a boomer, right at the beginning.


holy shit, your grandmother was born after 1946
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Mon Oct 22, 2012 23:39:29

JFLNYC wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
The Dude wrote:problem is they didn't invent it, and it's not ruined. but carry on


In a way, it ties in with their racism though, because in their racism, they erased black people from rock in the late 70s and 80s. According to them, black people could only play disco or soul or r&b, or be back up singers and none of that music was rock. Unless they were named Hendrix. And so you never heard black people on WMMR and similarly formatted stations in the late 70s and 80s.


Wow.


seriously, you ignored my point, then went weird. what a weirdo
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