All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby mcare89 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 22:54:40

TenuredVulture wrote:Romney won, Obama playing not to lose, trying to run out the clock. However, I don't know if Romney actually persuaded any voters who weren't already voting for him.

I think this is a fair assessment of the night.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 22:57:01

Was the rash on Romney's lips related to his constant licking of his lips? Does he always do that?
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby dajafi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 22:57:38

Whose minds were changed by this? Romney probably drew back some soft Republicans and maybe some independents. But there was no wipeout mistake, no Perry three agencies thing, or kill shot like "you're no Jack Kennedy" or "there you go again."

What the numbers suggest is that it's now closer in national polls than key states. I doubt tonight helped Romney in Florida very much because Obama IMO did better on the Medicare exchange. Ohio won't move from anything tonight.

InTrade had Obama at 69 percent when the debate started. It dipped to 66 at some point during, and was back at 69 again. I don't think those guys are the end-all be-all, but it means something.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:00:23

Mark Blumenthal ‏@MysteryPollster
CBS KN instant reaction poll: Big win for Romney. By 46-22 say think won, 56% have better opinion of Romney, Romney cares up from 30 to 63

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:00:52

conservatives thought romney was an alpha male

liberals thought romney was a bully
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:01:27

Youseff wrote:Was the rash on Romney's lips related to his constant licking of his lips? Does he always do that?


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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:03:21

I bet Romney would be great as Othello.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:04:33

Big Bird for President has 3200 likes on FB, and they have over 80 members in a group that started an hour ago

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:09:00

Political Math ‏@politicalmath
Mitt Romney is in a back room chugging chocolate milk yelling "Is that all you got motherf***er?"

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:11:28

Guliani clearly explaining that Republicans don't believe in government being able to do anything right so that's why we should elect them to roles in government.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:12:00

jerseyhoya wrote:
Political Math ‏@politicalmath
Mitt Romney is in a back room chugging chocolate milk yelling "Is that all you got motherf***er?"


If I'm generous 2.5/10
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:18:40

Youseff wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Political Math ‏@politicalmath
Mitt Romney is in a back room chugging chocolate milk yelling "Is that all you got motherf***er?"


If I'm generous 2.5/10


dudebro tries real hard at jokes. should stick to the maff, except he's bad at that, too

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The liberal line is "Mitt Romney's tax plan hates math" Here's a Princeton economist who disagrees http://bit.ly/QlI6jo


Rosen: What about growth?
Harvey Rosen, a public finance expert at Princeton, argued that the Romney tax plan will increase economic growth dramatically, which in turn would raise revenue and negate the need for tax increases on the middle-class. He finds that if the Romney plan increases economic growth by 3 percentage points relative to where it would be under current policies — a huge, and many economists think implausible, boost — then Romney’s numbers might work out. But behind his analysis lurk two assumptions that might not add up.
Rosen bases his growth estimates on a study of Romney’s plan done by Rice economist John Diamond. Diamond assumes that Romney’s plan is implemented under conditions of full employment. That’s important because it means that if you eliminate tax breaks for one industry and they have to fire workers, those workers can relatively easily find jobs in another industry. But barring a miraculous labor market recovery in the next few months, that won’t be the situation when Romney takes office. In the current world, wiping out tax breaks for an industry could lead to displaced workers who simply join the ranks of the unemployed, dragging down growth.
But more damaging for Rosen’s case is that Diamond’s study assumes that Romney’s plan is revenue-neutral before you take economic growth into account.* That is, Diamond assumes that the tax cuts have been fully paid for first, and that’s part of why they do so much for growth. Rosen, conversely, is making the case that you don’t need to fully pay for the tax cuts because growth will fill in the gap. So the Diamond-Romney tax plan and the Rosen-Romney tax plan are quite different, and growth estimates that apply to the first don’t necessarily apply to the second.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:19:07

RT @ScottKWalker: RT @jstrevino: MSNBC so glum, you'd think Scott Walker won another election.


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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:22:03

dajafi wrote:"there you go again."


Serious question: what was so awesome about this? I've seen it a hundred times, it's not particularly well delivered, frankly it kind of dies in the moment. Yet everyone has a hard on for it. Reagan had many, many fine moments. But this one, I've never gotten.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:24:04

So this Romney lizard lips thing is not a new thing.



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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:25:19

Youseff wrote:So this Romney lizard lips thing is not a new thing.





Your obsession with this is far more uncomfortable than the fact of it.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:25:28

it's the fire weed
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:25:52

surround sound, bro.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby dajafi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:26:26

Late Sunday night: I'm happy, jh less so
Late Wednesday night: vice-versa

Tbh, I think I prefer this to the opposite (solely because I think the Eagles needed the win more than Obama did). And yet the opposite would have been the best case outcome for Paul, this being the worst. This week is Bizarro 2008 (Giants win, Phillies win, Obama wins).

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:26:31

scared my dog. he jumped off the couch and ran to the other room when i started playing it.

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