All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:26:32

CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

by **td11** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:27:32

i do wonder if the obama team will actually prep him differently for the next one to be on the offensive more. seems like they just don't like to cut him loose and go for the jugular

by **CalvinBall** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:28:45

yea he didnt attack at all. romeny made little sense most of the time and obama just let him get away with it. sick of this.

by **td11** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:30:26

jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

i wish they had also simultaneously asked if that changes their vote

by **td11** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:32:16

by **mcare89** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:33:25

td11 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

i wish they had also simultaneously asked if that changes their vote

That's the polling numbers I'm interested in. I'm a 100% Obama supporter, and I'm still going to vote for him, but Romney clearly won the debate. Not every Obama supporter is delusional, just like not every Romney supporter is. I'm voting on ideology, not presentation.

by **dajafi** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:33:54

I don't think it changed votes. I do think it changes, or will change, the narrative. That could change votes, if it's sustained.

by gr » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:34:14

Pretty soon, we'll all look like each other. We have the technology.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:34:19

jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

Of course Romney won (and I'm an Obama supporter). What I find shocking is how 25% thought Obama won. If this had been a fight they'd have stopped it. No knockout blow, but Romney beat him to a pulp. I don't think Obama landed one square all night.

David Gergen on CNN said it looked like no one had talked to Obama like that in 4 years and that Obama was totally knocked off his game. I couldn't agree more.

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:35:41

dajafi wrote:Late Sunday night: I'm happy, jh less so
Late Wednesday night: vice-versa

Tbh, I think I prefer this to the opposite (solely because I think the Eagles needed the win more than Obama did). And yet the opposite would have been the best case outcome for Paul, this being the worst. This week is Bizarro 2008 (Giants win, Phillies win, Obama wins).

I take solace in the fact that Rutgers and the SAU Muleriders are undefeated. I hope at least one of them manages to win on Saturday.

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:36:16

JFLNYC wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

Of course Romney won (and I'm an Obama supporter). What I find shocking is how 25% thought Obama won. If this had been a fight they'd have stopped it. No knockout blow, but Romney beat him to a pulp. I don't think Obama landed one square all night.

David Gergen on CNN said it looked like no one had talked to Obama like that in 4 years and that Obama was totally knocked off his game. I couldn't agree more.

In these days of polarization getting a 2.5-1 verdict in favor of anyone on anything is really rare when partisan battle lines are drawn

by **td11** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:37:07

Peter Hamby ‏@PeterHambyCNN
silver lining for Obama in post-debate poll: fave/unfave numbers for both candidates mostly unchanged.

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:37:24

dajafi wrote:Late Sunday night: I'm happy, jh less so
Late Wednesday night: vice-versa

Tbh, I think I prefer this to the opposite (solely because I think the Eagles needed the win more than Obama did). And yet the opposite would have been the best case outcome for Paul, this being the worst. This week is Bizarro 2008 (Giants win, Phillies win, Obama wins).

Romney needed the win more than the Gmen though.

by **Youseff** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:40:49

when do the fact check articles come out? link that and the Romney lick lipping articles/images/editorials/blogs/gifs/twitter posts here

by **dajafi** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:41:35

jerseyhoya wrote:
dajafi wrote:Late Sunday night: I'm happy, jh less so
Late Wednesday night: vice-versa

Tbh, I think I prefer this to the opposite (solely because I think the Eagles needed the win more than Obama did). And yet the opposite would have been the best case outcome for Paul, this being the worst. This week is Bizarro 2008 (Giants win, Phillies win, Obama wins).

Romney needed the win more than the Gmen though.

We have maximized our utility.

by **Youseff** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:41:45

JFLNYC wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

Of course Romney won (and I'm an Obama supporter). What I find shocking is how 25% thought Obama won. If this had been a fight they'd have stopped it. No knockout blow, but Romney beat him to a pulp. I don't think Obama landed one square all night.

David Gergen on CNN said it looked like no one had talked to Obama like that in 4 years and that Obama was totally knocked off his game. I couldn't agree more.

I think Obama won on Obamacare and did marginally better on his tax plan.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:42:12

jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

Gloating is unbecoming of a gentleman.

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:43:34

dajafi wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
dajafi wrote:Late Sunday night: I'm happy, jh less so
Late Wednesday night: vice-versa

Tbh, I think I prefer this to the opposite (solely because I think the Eagles needed the win more than Obama did). And yet the opposite would have been the best case outcome for Paul, this being the worst. This week is Bizarro 2008 (Giants win, Phillies win, Obama wins).

Romney needed the win more than the Gmen though.

We have maximized our utility.

Just started laughing aloud

by **td11** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:43:50

Another reason for caution is that Romney, as part of his efforts to disarm Obama’s criticisms, made a number of policy concessions that could box him in and make it more difficult for him to govern as a limited government conservative if elected. At various times during the debate Romney said that he wasn’t interested in cutting taxes, particularly on the wealthy; that he would cover individuals with pre-existing conditions; that he wouldn’t touch Medicare and Social Security over the next decade and would be willing to give more money to seniors for prescription drugs; and that he’d be open to hiring more teachers. Should he be elected president, all of the major fights – repealing Obamacare, overhauling the tax code and reforming entitlements – will trigger a massive campaign by liberals to portray him as trying to hurt the poor to the benefit of the rich. If he is so willing to concede policy points during the campaign, will he fight for limited government as president?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2 ... G0FI5jA_8l

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 23:43:53

Youseff wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:CNN poll, Romney won 67-25% among registered voters who watched tonight.

Holy. Shit. That's a TON of Obama supporters saying Romney won.

Of course Romney won (and I'm an Obama supporter). What I find shocking is how 25% thought Obama won. If this had been a fight they'd have stopped it. No knockout blow, but Romney beat him to a pulp. I don't think Obama landed one square all night.

David Gergen on CNN said it looked like no one had talked to Obama like that in 4 years and that Obama was totally knocked off his game. I couldn't agree more.

I think Obama won on Obamacare and did marginally better on his tax plan.

Here's the thing: Obama never wins a debate on Obamacare, because a substantial majority of the country still hates it, no matter who says what about it. A handy guide: if he's talking about Obamacare, he's losing.

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