All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:12:13

It is not that Fox News is, during its day time news, more conservative. It is that Fox News actually expends effort to ensure it relates to the values and world view of many more Americans than most major news outlets.


i mean ok

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:12:44

CalvinBall wrote:he is part of the media and makes excuses for romney and his party constantly.

He's a conservative guest on CNN and writes for RedState.

The thing about media bias/objectivity is only the objective part of the media is supposed to be objective.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:16:16

its stupid. fox news did it first. made a shit ton of money so msnbc followed suit and does a suckier job at it but still makes a lot of money.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:18:11

Calvin he's not talking (primarily) about MSNBC.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:25:39

i get it. obama sucks. he has the news media in his pocket. fox and their ilk are humble champions for truth.

dont get the random spouse part at the end.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 11, 2012 00:28:50

i think this is really good. npr defends itself against these kind of claims.

http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/sep/14/

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Oct 11, 2012 01:13:46

Biden/Ryan going up against game four of Yanks/O's, game five of A's/Tigers AND Steelers/Titans. I guess MI and PA are only borderline competitive, and the rest aren't competitive at all. But still...I'll probably be flipping back and forth depending on competitiveness. Have to imagine this will cut into viewership numbers big time.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Thu Oct 11, 2012 07:56:12

someone post the drinking game poster for this debate please

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Oct 11, 2012 09:17:41

If Ryan takes off his shirt, drink a fifth of vodka.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Oct 11, 2012 09:18:40

My international relations professor, who is a conservative, said that based on the evidence we have of what Romney's foreign policy would be, he is a neocon. He then went on a 10 minute lecture on why neocons are in fact insane.

If you weren't excited about Romney's resurgence before I don't see how you aren't now.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 09:33:07

jobless claims hit a 6 year low today.

also,

When House Republicans called a hearing in the middle of their long recess, you knew it would be something big, and indeed it was: They accidentally blew the CIA’s cover.

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Through their outbursts, cryptic language and boneheaded questioning of State Department officials, the committee members left little doubt that one of the two compounds at which the Americans were killed, described by the administration as a “consulate” and a nearby “annex,” was a CIA base. They did this, helpfully, in a televised public hearing.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) was the first to unmask the spooks. “Point of order! Point of order!” he called out as a State Department security official, seated in front of an aerial photo of the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, described the chaotic night of the attack. “We’re getting into classified issues that deal with sources and methods that would be totally inappropriate in an open forum such as this.”

A State Department official assured him that the material was “entirely unclassified” and that the photo was from a commercial satellite. “I totally object to the use of that photo,” Chaffetz continued. He went on to say that “I was told specifically while I was in Libya I could not and should not ever talk about what you’re showing here today.”

Now that Chaffetz had alerted potential bad guys that something valuable was in the photo, the chairman, Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), attempted to lock the barn door through which the horse had just bolted. “I would direct that that chart be taken down,” he said, although it already had been on C-SPAN. “In this hearing room, we’re not going to point out details of what may still in fact be a facility of the United States government or more facilities.”

May still be a facility? The plot thickened — and Chaffetz gave more hints. “I believe that the markings on that map were terribly inappropriate,” he said, adding that “the activities there could cost lives.”

In their questioning and in the public testimony they invited, the lawmakers managed to disclose, without ever mentioning Langley directly, that there was a seven-member “rapid response force” in the compound the State Department was calling an annex. One of the State Department security officials was forced to acknowledge that “not necessarily all of the security people” at the Benghazi compounds “fell under my direct operational control.”


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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:34:12

td11 wrote:jobless claims hit a 6 year low today.

also,

When House Republicans called a hearing in the middle of their long recess, you knew it would be something big, and indeed it was: They accidentally blew the CIA’s cover.


well, they did want to establish whether personnel on the scene were put at risk by elected officials in washington

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:28:03

further evidence that toe-sucking can produce severe brain damage

Obama’s second-term plan: Let the UN tax Americans
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