The unknown in this situation is that we don't know what MacPhail wants out of his GM. I don't think that the new GM will have the latitude of action that traditional ones do. My guess is that the GM will be hooked to MacPhail the way that Hoyer is to Epstein in Chicago or whoever Dombrowski hires to work with him in Boston.
Because MacPhail has made statements regarding that he needs input from others in analytics because that is an area where he has no expertise, I would suspect that the GM will have to either be a stat head or be able to put together a group that could do it. Maybe Ng can do this but it seems like an area that Klentak has shown in the past that he can handle.

Most good front offices are going to the two-headed monster scenario. A lot of people are making it a big deal but I don't think there is any merit to it.

Monkeyboy wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:I think it's time. I think the Phillies need to hire Kim Ng.

I wasn't too sure about her yesterday but I did some research on her and she's been involved (and seems to have done well) in almost every aspect of baseball operations.

I say bring her in.

Yeh, the more I read about her, the more comfortable I am. I didn't like hiring someone from the league office, but she really has had her hands in every aspect of the game and has succeeded at everything she's done. Hard to say she wouldn't succeed as a GM when she's been successful at everything else.

Make it so.

I don't think there's any more danger than when she was hired at any of her other positions. She's succeeded, with flying colors, at every position she's had. I'm not sure what's magical about the GM position that would suddenly turn her incompetent and turn out everyone else against her.

In what way has she been especially successful at her jobs? She won a few arbitration cases. Great, so has someone in every other organization.

If people want to say she's qualified to be a GM, fine I agree. But I don't understand the people saying that she's exceptionally talented or more qualified than all of the other people trying to get this job. It's an important and prestigious job, a lot of qualified and talented people are going to apply. Being qualified just gets you in the door at this point.

I think any argument from an outsider specifically for Ng over all other candidates that is something other than "She is reasonably qualified and it'd be awesome if the Phillies hired the first female GM" is somewhat disingenuous.

MoBettle wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:I think it's time. I think the Phillies need to hire Kim Ng.

I wasn't too sure about her yesterday but I did some research on her and she's been involved (and seems to have done well) in almost every aspect of baseball operations.

I say bring her in.

Yeh, the more I read about her, the more comfortable I am. I didn't like hiring someone from the league office, but she really has had her hands in every aspect of the game and has succeeded at everything she's done. Hard to say she wouldn't succeed as a GM when she's been successful at everything else.

Make it so.

I don't think there's any more danger than when she was hired at any of her other positions. She's succeeded, with flying colors, at every position she's had. I'm not sure what's magical about the GM position that would suddenly turn her incompetent and turn out everyone else against her.

In what way has she been especially successful at her jobs? She won a few arbitration cases. Great, so has someone in every other organization.

If people want to say she's qualified to be a GM, fine I agree. But I don't understand the people saying that she's exceptionally talented or more qualified than all of the other people trying to get this job. It's an important and prestigious job, a lot of qualified and talented people are going to apply. Being qualified just gets you in the door at this point.

I think any argument from an outsider specifically for Ng over all other candidates that is something other than "She is reasonably qualified and it'd be awesome if the Phillies hired the first female GM" is somewhat disingenuous.

If you read back a bit, I was saying almost exactly what you are saying. I just did some more reading and feel comfortable that she's at least as qualified as other quality candidates. Given that, I'm ok with them hiring her. I would also be fine with them hiring several other candidates, and probably a few others I don't even know about yet.

She's been very successful if you believe all her former bosses and coworkers. Maybe they are lying, I don't know. I just think it would be pretty lousy to avoid someone because they would be the first woman/asian in a GM post and we're afraid the others won't play nice with her. Other than one incident, I haven't seen any evidence that she would have trouble and I see lots of evidence that she wouldn't have trouble. So, looking at the evidence, I would place her on the list of good hires. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not being disingenuous.

If Bowden thinks she is a bad talent evaluator, I'll take her. That guy is the worst - classic old school baseball know-nothing.

@Buster:One evaluator's prediction: J.J. Picollo of the Kansas City Royals will become the next general manager of the Phillies.

smitty wrote:Computers are for smaller markets. We're the big dogs.

Woof woof amirite

702 wrote:@Buster:One evaluator's prediction: J.J. Picollo of the Kansas City Royals will become the next general manager of the Phillies.

Musical talent

That blows

shut up buster

Cherry Hill's own

stevemc wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:i'd give heyward whatever he asks for. i'd probably do the same for price.

I think they will make a play for Heyward or Cespedes (who might make more sense in terms of contract length and amount and no draft pick compensation) and Price too (no draft pick compensation as well).

I was thinking that Cespedes might be a guy to target for a 5 or 6 year deal. He's only 29 and he would be a source of power, which we desperately need. Plus no draft pick compensation.

702 wrote:@Buster:One evaluator's prediction: J.J. Picollo of the Kansas City Royals will become the next general manager of the Phillies.

Is he hot?

lethal wrote:

stevemc wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:i'd give heyward whatever he asks for. i'd probably do the same for price.

I think they will make a play for Heyward or Cespedes (who might make more sense in terms of contract length and amount and no draft pick compensation) and Price too (no draft pick compensation as well).

I was thinking that Cespedes might be a guy to target for a 5 or 6 year deal. He's only 29 and he would be a source of power, which we desperately need. Plus no draft pick compensation.

also, cuban.

This happened seven years ago tonight:

Ty for posting

pacino wrote:Cherry Hill's own

West side, though.


They're not too bright over there.

CFP wrote:This happened seven years ago tonight:

Memories

Piccolo should be fine. He's done a great job contributing within the dynamic of the KC organization. Seems like a guy who will be hungry to take the next step. One concern is anybody jumping from smaller market to big market. Important to not let judgment and talent eval become clouded by extended resources ($$$)

swishnicholson wrote:

pacino wrote:Cherry Hill's own

West side, though.


They're not too bright over there.