PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:A guy that interests me is Doug Fister. If he was a free agent last year he would've gotten 5/100+. Doubt he's tendered by the Nationals. After a disastrous year he might look for a one year show me deal. Offer him 1/15 and if he does well trade him at the deadline or get a comp pick at the end of the year if doesn't resign. Samardzija is another guy I'd do this for but he might be tendered. Maybe even offer 1/20 to convince them to do a one year deal with a rebuilding team.

ReadingPhilly wrote:

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:

phillychuck wrote:Do we lose a pick if we sign Heyward?

2nd rounder, but #43 overall, right?

Not sure he's worth the money plus the pick.

Yes and the allotment for #43ish pick which would hurt just as much.

can make up for that by skimming on 1.1

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:A guy that interests me is Doug Fister. If he was a free agent last year he would've gotten 5/100+. Doubt he's tendered by the Nationals. After a disastrous year he might look for a one year show me deal. Offer him 1/15 and if he does well trade him at the deadline or get a comp pick at the end of the year if doesn't resign. Samardzija is another guy I'd do this for but he might be tendered. Maybe even offer 1/20 to convince them to do a one year deal with a rebuilding team.

Ace Rothstein wrote:not a fan of giving up a top 45ish pick for a 1 yr rental

phillychuck wrote:Heyward for 4 yrs, $45M plus player options?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/2 ... ngs-5.html

WhiteyFan wrote:

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:A guy that interests me is Doug Fister. If he was a free agent last year he would've gotten 5/100+. Doubt he's tendered by the Nationals. After a disastrous year he might look for a one year show me deal. Offer him 1/15 and if he does well trade him at the deadline or get a comp pick at the end of the year if doesn't resign. Samardzija is another guy I'd do this for but he might be tendered. Maybe even offer 1/20 to convince them to do a one year deal with a rebuilding team.

Pitchers are unlikely to come to our bandbox for a show-me season. Probably have better luck drawing a hitter for this. Ian Desmond maybe?

phillychuck wrote:Heyward for 4 yrs, $45M plus player options?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/2 ... ngs-5.html

phillychuck wrote:Heyward for 4 yrs, $45M plus player options?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/2 ... ngs-5.html

When noncontending teams trade away veterans for future help at the deadline, short-term results normally get even worse. Not so for the Phillies, who went a miserable 29-62 in the first half, only to rally for a respectable 34-37 mark in the second half. For that they can thank a range of factors, including some natural regression toward the mean and some addition-by-subtraction from the jettisoning of struggling vets like Chase Utley. However, the biggest surprise came after they traded staff ace Cole Hamels. The Phillies got six players in return for Hamels and reliever Jake Diekman — and one of those six players has topped Hamels’s post-trade contributions by himself.

By Baseball-Reference’s Wins Above Replacement, rookie Jerad Eickhoff has delivered more value in eight starts for the Phillies than Hamels has in 12 with the Rangers. With Philadelphia, the 6-foot-4, 240-pound right-hander has fired 51 innings, striking out 49 batters while allowing just 40 hits, 13 walks, and five home runs to go with a 2.65 ERA. Plus, his numbers in his final four starts were borderline illegal: 28 innings and 33 strikeouts, with just 17 hits and seven walks allowed, and an 0.96 ERA.

It’s tough to know if those results might carry over to next season, or if they’re just the result of a random hot streak. A 15th-round pick by the Rangers four years ago, Eickhoff has never been regarded as an elite prospect, and he failed to make Baseball America’s top-10 list for Texas in 2015. Still, this year’s finishing kick has been tantalizing: Although Eickhoff’s fastball only checks in around 92 mph, his secondary stuff has dazzled, with opponents batting just .102 against his curveball and .174 against his slider. For a team in the midst of a total teardown and rebuild, Eickhoff and fellow youngster Aaron Nola have started to raise some hope for an eventual pitching-led revival in Philly.

thephan wrote:4. Did someone say Ian Desmond? He would drive you guys insane. Does anyone really want more free swingers?
Lowest SLG, second lowes OPS, and tied his lowest OPS+ of his career. He did hit 19 HRs, but his defense was horrible (there was an early season written calling his a "special kind of disaster) with 27 errors to Galvis' uncharacteristic 17. He had 187 strikeouts in 2015, up 4 from 2014. I guess this is a strong PASS from me.