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Postby Grotewold » Mon Sep 13, 2010 16:40:18

Enzyte added six inches to his fastball

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Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 13, 2010 16:41:27

There's one right there.
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Postby WheelsFellOff » Mon Sep 13, 2010 17:03:55

Now as soon as we replace KK with a pitching machine we'll be set.
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Postby td11 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 17:51:50

Didn't I? wrote:My post from two weeks ago:

Didn't I? wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Ryan will make a guest appearance on the Entourage season finale next Sunday...


I look forward to him somehow knowing Turtle.


:lol: good call, brah
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Postby td11 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 17:52:45

Grotewold wrote:Enzyte added six inches to his fastball


:lol: :lol:
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Postby Titlehungry » Mon Sep 13, 2010 20:10:29


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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 21:17:56

Roy Oswalt
I Stand Alone - Godsmack


not rednecky enough

Joe Blanton
Hillbilly Deluxe - Brooks & Dunn


there we go

Greg Dobbs
Stinkfist - Tool


hmm

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Postby Rev_Beezer » Mon Sep 13, 2010 22:05:58

Dobbs:


Knuckle deep inside the borderline.
This may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to.
Relax. Turn away.

Yeah, that's kinda like watching his at bats this year.
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Postby FTN » Mon Sep 13, 2010 22:20:08

i do love that raul comes out to social distortion

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Postby Soren » Mon Sep 13, 2010 22:25:29

there are so many inappropriate Raul jokes I want to try to make but I can phase them right
Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 03:40:38

Rollins will be back soon, evidently, but this caught my eye:

Associated Press wrote:The NL East-leading Phillies are 51-31 when Rollins plays this season, 33-30 when he does not. When Rollins scores a run, Philadelphia is 30-6, as opposed to 54-55 when he doesn't cross the plate.


30-6. How can one person mean that much?
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Postby bleh » Tue Sep 14, 2010 04:09:09

They're 32-9 when Chase Utley scores a run
They're 11-3 when Brian Schneider scores a run
They're 5-1 when Juan Castro scores a run
They're [pretty good record] when [any random player] scores a run

it's a meaningless stat.

It's like the Kyle Kendrick has a 2 ERA in games he wins stat.

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 04:11:24

bleh wrote:They're 32-9 when Chase Utley scores a run
They're 11-3 when Brian Schneider scores a run
They're 5-1 when Juan Castro scores a run
They're [pretty good record] when [any random player] scores a run

it's a meaningless stat.

It's like the Kyle Kendrick has a 2 ERA in games he wins stat.


Humph. They must lose some games when somebody scores.
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Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Sep 14, 2010 05:11:54

mozartpc27 wrote:
bleh wrote:They're 32-9 when Chase Utley scores a run
They're 11-3 when Brian Schneider scores a run
They're 5-1 when Juan Castro scores a run
They're [pretty good record] when [any random player] scores a run

it's a meaningless stat.

It's like the Kyle Kendrick has a 2 ERA in games he wins stat.


Humph. They must lose some games when somebody scores.


Yeah, the other team.
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Postby bleh » Tue Sep 14, 2010 05:32:40

It's basic logic. There's a huge difference between saying "When [certain player] scores" and "when somebody scores".

If you looked at a random box score and randomly picked a player and saw they scored a run, there's a much better chance that team will be the one who won the game. It's like spotting that team a 1-0 lead.

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Tue Sep 14, 2010 08:15:31

Crashburn Alley

WTF C'MON GUYZ STOP BEING PPL AND START BEIN HOCKY ROBOTS
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:40:31

CrashburnAlley wrote:http://www.thegoodphight.com/2008/9/16/615450/the-most-useless-stat-team


Interesting, and their list gets at a point I was trying (and failing) to articulate earlier: since most games the team losses aren't shut outs (except for this year, ha ha), if the team is 30-6 in games when Rollins scores a run this year, then they must have a mediocre record for somebody if you look at the same stat. In 2008, it was Jayson Werth (not bad, at 28-22, just not eye-popping or notable either). I wonder who it is this year? In any event, it seems Rollins is never that guy, year in and year out.

I am perfectly happy/prepared to accept that this is merely a coincidence, however.
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Postby cartersDad26 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:21:37

Why do Chooch and Schneider both use In the Air Tonight? Inside catcher's joke?

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Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:47:52

cartersDad26 wrote:Why do Chooch and Schneider both use In the Air Tonight? Inside catcher's joke?


Just so they can air-drum the kickass breakdown
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Postby smitty » Tue Sep 14, 2010 14:35:17

mozartpc27 wrote:
CrashburnAlley wrote:http://www.thegoodphight.com/2008/9/16/615450/the-most-useless-stat-team


Interesting, and their list gets at a point I was trying (and failing) to articulate earlier: since most games the team losses aren't shut outs (except for this year, ha ha), if the team is 30-6 in games when Rollins scores a run this year, then they must have a mediocre record for somebody if you look at the same stat. In 2008, it was Jayson Werth (not bad, at 28-22, just not eye-popping or notable either). I wonder who it is this year? In any event, it seems Rollins is never that guy, year in and year out.

I am perfectly happy/prepared to accept that this is merely a coincidence, however.


It might be a useless stat and it probably is but no one has really shown that it is. I'm pretty sure the Phillies always have a very good record when Rollins scores a run. I doubt if that's true for everyone.

What does it mean when Rollins scores a run in a game? It means he got on base and someone drove him in with a hit most of the time. So that means the top of the order got a few hits. So maybe when the top of the order gets a few hits they win most of the time.

I'd still like to see the records of all teams when their lead off guy scores a run for a number of years. That might tell us something.

As it is right now it is a useless stat because there is no context. Much like a few years ago when the writers made a big deal about Brett Myers really good ERA in the 11 games he won. Now of course, you can look up everyone's ERA in games they win and pretty much everyone has really good ERAs in games they win.

Without context, all stats are useless. With context you can tell a stats value. I'm pretty sure the team record when Rollins scores a run doesn't mean much. But I'd like to see it. (I don't even know where you look stuff like this up although I'm sure there is a place).
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