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by **lowcountry** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:34:47

Mountainphan wrote:Lee won every game in the playoffs. Halladay at best can only match that. To beat a team like the Yankees or even the Red Sox, we need both in the rotation.

Having both, even if it's just for one year, makes us damn near unbeatable in a 7 game series.

This. Worry about 2011 in 2011.

by **CFP** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:34:51

702 wrote:Can't say im that happy witha trade that sends Cliff to another team. All it really seems the difference is you get Lee/Halladay to a new extension. Honestly we could of signed Lee to an extension and kept our prospects...

Or we couldn't have, because there's a certain point where it looks really, really, you-look-cute-but-you're-ugly-and-it's-3AM-in-a-bar bad type of idea to give a guy 7 years, $130 million to pitch baseball for your team.

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:10

Woody wrote:And the only way I can get off is with two Thai whores licking my taint but that's just not a reality 364 days out of the year

PEARL HARBOR DAY FTW!!!

by **Eem** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:16

Heyman, on Twitter: cliff lee told phillies "no discount.'' halladay may be willing to come for less than santana. deal appears at hand.

by **phorever** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:27

lowcountry wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:but will you take No. 1 instead of the status quo?

I'd rather take a stab at signing Halladay as a FA than lose Lee now.

agree. i think our chances of signing halladay next offseason would be excellent. if we assume that halladay signs and lee doesn't next offseason, and that the two aren't too far apart in what they would give the phillies in 2010, lee-for-halladay doesn't gain us anything in 2010, and loses us taylor/brown in 2011 and beyond. if the net cost in dollars is too much, it also could rule out signing pedro in 2010.

the only way this works for me is if we get (really) good prospects at our positions of need (ss).

by **FTN** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:36

Halladay will be better than Lee over the next 5 years too, fwiw

by **lowcountry** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:39

FTN wrote:wanna hear my guess?

He's going to trade Blanton for two prospects, both of whom will be packaged with Taylor and two other prospects from our system plus a PTBNL, and sent to Toronto. Toronto will send 5M back in the deal.

He keeps Lee. Every news outlet marvels at his ability to keep Lee while adding Halladay. He smugly grins.

And then I piss myself. :lol:

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:47

FTN wrote:wanna hear my guess?

He's going to trade Blanton for two prospects, both of whom will be packaged with Taylor and two other prospects from our system plus a PTBNL, and sent to Toronto. Toronto will send 5M back in the deal.

He keeps Lee. Every news outlet marvels at his ability to keep Lee while adding Halladay. He smugly grins.

Any scenario that ends with a smug grin and Halladay to his left works for me

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:35:49

uncle milt wrote:

This.

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:36:03

lowcountry wrote:
Mountainphan wrote:Lee won every game in the playoffs. Halladay at best can only match that. To beat a team like the Yankees or even the Red Sox, we need both in the rotation.

Having both, even if it's just for one year, makes us damn near unbeatable in a 7 game series.

This. Worry about 2011 in 2011.

That's easy for you to say. Not so much when you are the GM.

by **PSUsarge** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:36:03

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:36:04

Trent Steele wrote:
Woody wrote:And the only way I can get off is with two Thai whores licking my taint but that's just not a reality 364 days out of the year

PEARL HARBOR DAY FTW!!!

by **stevemc** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:37:13

123 users y'all

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:37:20

Now the question: Is there a scenario where:

1. We keep Lee
2. We keep Blanton
3. We get money from Jays
4. We keep both Drabek and Brown?

I'm thinking there's not. The price for keeping Lee is getting $$ from the Jays and the price for that money is Drabek and Brown -- or so I fear. The consolation would be keeping Happ, though:

Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Blanton
Happ

by **lowcountry** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:38:37

Trent Steele wrote:
lowcountry wrote:This. Worry about 2011 in 2011.

That's easy for you to say. Not so much when you are the GM.

Yeah. I don't disagree.

I'm just really hoping for the FTW rotation in 2010.

by **dajafi** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:38:48

Doll Is Mine wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:We are so lucky to have a GM who works this hard and is this creative. I'm dead serious.

And to think, there was Phillies fans who dreaded Amaro getting the job.

I was in that boat.

We don't have concepts adequate to express how much better he's been compared to my expectations.

by **CFP** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:38:50

Blanton, Taylor, Bastardo to Jays plus cash to pay for Blanton. We get Halladay and Carlson. Everyone is happy. Book it.

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:38:51

I'm having a fantasy. We get Halladay with a long term deal and Lee signs a 4 year extension.

Ooops. My pants got sticky. Just like with all my other fantasies.

by **phorever** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:39:11

FTN wrote:Halladay will be better than Lee over the next 5 years too, fwiw

prove it

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:39:39

JFLNYC wrote:Now the question: Is there a scenario where:

1. We keep Lee
2. We keep Blanton
3. We get money from Jays
4. We keep both Drabek and Brown?

I'm thinking there's not. The price for keeping Lee is getting $$ from the Jays and the price for that money is Drabek and Brown -- or so I fear. The consolation would be keeping Happ, though:

Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Blanton
Happ

Yes. It involves hostages, waterboarding, and a truckload of speedballs.

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