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Postby The Savior » Sun Sep 27, 2020 21:05:14

This trump thing won’t play well. Really won’t play well, IMO.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Sun Sep 27, 2020 21:06:04

CalvinBall wrote:Parscale in the hospital after barricading himself inside his home and threatening to physically harm himself.


Bad things happening to bad people isn’t something that I tend to lose sleep over.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Trent Steele » Sun Sep 27, 2020 21:07:41

The Savior wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Parscale in the hospital after barricading himself inside his home and threatening to physically harm himself.


Bad things happening to bad people isn’t something that I tend to lose sleep over.


Seconded
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Sun Sep 27, 2020 21:36:03

The Savior wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Parscale in the hospital after barricading himself inside his home and threatening to physically harm himself.


Bad things happening to bad people isn’t something that I tend to lose sleep over.


It's terrible to admit but sometimes I do. I have an extra glass of bourbon to celebrate, stay up late reading about it, and end up sleeping like shit.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Sun Sep 27, 2020 22:08:21

Did the repo guy come the Ferrari?

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Gimpy » Sun Sep 27, 2020 23:24:16

If you cast an early ballot (through either early voting or mailing in your ballot) and die before Election Day, does your vote still count? What if you mail it in and get hit by a bus and die on your way back from the mailbox? I’d assume the answer is yes, I was just wondering.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Sun Sep 27, 2020 23:35:50

The Savior wrote:NYT has more it will publish over next several weeks.


This is fantastic.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Sep 27, 2020 23:37:35

Yeah, I wonder if we learn who Trump is personally in debt to from that. Would be good. They need to get that out there ASAP if they have it. I have no idea if that's something that would need to be listed on a tax form as someone who doesn't owe hundreds of millions of dollars to anyone.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 04:05:41

I think this is big if for no other reason than it will keep him from gaining any kind of traction. He's running out of time to close the gap and get it close enough to contest.

I can't wait to read the coming articles that will probably be increasingly bad for him and may cause more to surface from other sources. Maybe the public will find out more before the election than first thought.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 04:09:33

Trent Steele wrote:
The Savior wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Parscale in the hospital after barricading himself inside his home and threatening to physically harm himself.


Bad things happening to bad people isn’t something that I tend to lose sleep over.


Seconded


So I wonder what set him off. The legal troubles descending upon him or an attempt to be in psychiatric facilities for his coming prison term? Or maybe a distraction ordered by Trump to steal coverage from the NYT story. So hard to tell with these guys.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 04:23:59

For the record, I think he's laundering money through his real estate and golf courses. Lots of it from Russia.

I'm 90% sure I'm not just saying this because I just finished watching Ozark.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Mon Sep 28, 2020 07:33:46

I think it’s pretty clear he, DB and some shady international professionals are laundering money collectively. And Trump isn’t the only one doing it.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CFP » Mon Sep 28, 2020 07:45:48

Doris Burke is in on it? Leave her out of this

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Sep 28, 2020 09:20:15

momadance wrote:
The Savior wrote:NYT has more it will publish over next several weeks.


This is fantastic.


Deep state forgeries I’m sure
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Mon Sep 28, 2020 09:27:42

lethal wrote:Fascinating read. I don't think I gave Mazars enough credit over the years. Didn't see much that was outright illegal or tax fraud in there, but sure seems that the Prez is much poorer than he or his supporters claim.

The worthless stock deduction should be disallowed since he got 5% of the new company. The consulting payments to Ivanka are clear estate tax avoidance. Couple other takeaways, but didn't see much on first read that piqued my technical interest.

Wonder who the source(s) is/are..."provided by sources with legal access to it." If its his accounting firm, they're risking a lot to expose a client. Who else had legal access to all the returns of the 200 companies under his ownership though?


thanks

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Sep 28, 2020 09:39:48

jamiethekiller wrote:
lethal wrote:Fascinating read. I don't think I gave Mazars enough credit over the years. Didn't see much that was outright illegal or tax fraud in there, but sure seems that the Prez is much poorer than he or his supporters claim.

The worthless stock deduction should be disallowed since he got 5% of the new company. The consulting payments to Ivanka are clear estate tax avoidance. Couple other takeaways, but didn't see much on first read that piqued my technical interest.

Wonder who the source(s) is/are..."provided by sources with legal access to it." If its his accounting firm, they're risking a lot to expose a client. Who else had legal access to all the returns of the 200 companies under his ownership though?


thanks


I doubt Trump paid his accountants, so maybe that's there motivation.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:00:45

The thing I honestly find most shocking about the NYT report is how much of what he and his accountants did is in fact perfectly legal.

The system is set up to allow rich people to hide money through illiquid assets to avoid paying taxes while us suckers have to cough it up.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:07:02

Wolfgang622 wrote:The thing I honestly find most shocking about the NYT report is how much of what he and his accountants did is in fact perfectly legal.

The system is set up to allow rich people to hide money through illiquid assets to avoid paying taxes while us suckers have to cough it up.


One key point is that while it's legal to exploit all kinds of tax loopholes, it's bank fraud to tell a different story to lenders than you tell to the IRS.

As much as I want Trump to fry here, so too I want DB execs held accountable. Will be gravy if Anthony Kennedy's son goes to prison.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:13:32

Wolfgang622 wrote:The thing I honestly find most shocking about the NYT report is how much of what he and his accountants did is in fact perfectly legal.

The system is set up to allow rich people to hide money through illiquid assets to avoid paying taxes while us suckers have to cough it up.

I don't find that part shocking, you hear all the time about the super rich or companies like Amazon not paying any taxes.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby azrider » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:18:33

Wolfgang622 wrote:The thing I honestly find most shocking about the NYT report is how much of what he and his accountants did is in fact perfectly legal.

The system is set up to allow rich people to hide money through illiquid assets to avoid paying taxes while us suckers have to cough it up.


great news... while his detractors have always kinda accused him of being shady, he was always able to keep this at bay. now that it's actually open, and i agree with you that it was legal but definitely unethical. it really tarnished his narrative, his status with some quasi-supporters. puts him back on his heels going into the debate. very important as it counter acts the hunter biden questions.

blm/riots > covid-19

covid-19 disaster + shady as fuck taxes and income > blm/riots = biden win

really needed a legit october surprise and not grasping at some straws, i am pretty sure this is it.

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