Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby azrider » Mon Sep 28, 2020 14:54:40

thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:

Arrest starts around 2mins


I feel like I should send this to by Trump is King pal who is totally pissed that Live PD and COPS is off the air. That body cam is at the wrong place for a good chunk of the video.


i'm just happy he was white.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 28, 2020 15:20:01

Good old F&F

[Don Jr] criticized The Times for focusing on the president’s finances, saying, “If only they spent as much time looking for, maybe, I don’t know, Hunter Biden’s tax returns and the Biden crime family issues.”
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The B1G Piece » Mon Sep 28, 2020 15:42:40

thephan wrote:Good old F&F

[Don Jr] criticized The Times for focusing on the president’s finances, saying, “If only they spent as much time looking for, maybe, I don’t know, Hunter Biden’s tax returns and the Biden crime family issues.”

This really hurts presidential candidate Hunter Biden.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Mon Sep 28, 2020 15:44:49

lethal wrote:
Augustus wrote:How much are the consulting fees a unique Trump scam vs something every rich asshole is doing


I don't know about in comparison to other rich people with closely held family businesses, but two comments. 1) Paying a person as a management employee and then also paying that person's company as an outside consultant is pretty brazen. Usually its one or the other. 2) In the context of the P&L of his companies, the related party consulting fees aren't even that much and there's not a ton of tax impact on the payor to classify that as an employee expense or a consulting expense. Both are deductible expenses. The main point on this is that its more or less a transfer of weath in an attempt to mitigate the estate tax, but the recipient is still paying income tax on it (presumably), so that impact is even blunted.

The refund from 09 is still under audit and I expect Trump to lose that one if the later ownership of the new company is correct. I can't see JCT signing off on that.

The consultant fee part is weird to me, too. I'm guessing that it's for other nefarious reasons. For example, perhaps they were told that fair market value for his kids' salary was X, so you can't just pay them 3X. So they setup a consulting company to pay them 2X, while they earned X as salary.

They did something similar with service contracts, per the Nytimes expose from last year. They overpaid management fees to their property manager, a company owned by the kids.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Sep 28, 2020 15:46:33

NYT/Siena poll of PA coming later today.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 28, 2020 16:21:33

150 million rapid covid tests are being sent to vulnerable populations across the US the president revealed in a rose garden press conference. Glad to see that eight or nine months in depending on which calendar you prefer the federal government is getting in the game. Trump said we're rounding the corner, and then Pence followed him up by trying to set expectations that there's going to be continued deaths for a while.

Scott Atlas, the guy from radiology, stepped up to the mic and put some medical assurances down about something he doesn't know very damn much about. #I'mWithRedfield
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Sep 28, 2020 16:25:26

they announced that in august i believe. but for some reason (election!) are announcing it again.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby 1 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 16:40:07

momadance wrote:

Arrest starts around 2mins

She sounds like she belongs on an episode of Making a Murderer
Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Eem » Mon Sep 28, 2020 17:05:22

Really starting to think Mexico isn't paying for the wall
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Sep 28, 2020 17:15:44

Eem wrote:Really starting to think Mexico isn't paying for the wall

Lol

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Sep 28, 2020 17:23:19

CalvinBall wrote:NYT/Siena poll of PA coming later today.

49/40 Biden

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:08:33

CalvinBall wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:NYT/Siena poll of PA coming later today.

49/40 Biden


Let’s fucking go
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:12:53

It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:20:39

jamiethekiller wrote:It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.


I mean he campaigned for the Democratic nomination. And I'm sure he'd love to be able to do actual events, but he takes the pandemic a little more serious than some.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:25:14

slugsrbad wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.


I mean he campaigned for the Democratic nomination. And I'm sure he'd love to be able to do actual events, but he takes the pandemic a little more serious than some.


Perfect reply to this nonsensical Bernie Bro talking point. Cannot wait for Biden to lay it to rest tomorrow night.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:32:57

06hawkalum wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.


I mean he campaigned for the Democratic nomination. And I'm sure he'd love to be able to do actual events, but he takes the pandemic a little more serious than some.


Perfect reply to this nonsensical Bernie Bro talking point. Cannot wait for Biden to lay it to rest tomorrow night.


You guys are insane.

It's had to have been said like 10 different times and ways on this board that the best thing for Biden is to let Trump ruin himself.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:41:57

jamiethekiller wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.


I mean he campaigned for the Democratic nomination. And I'm sure he'd love to be able to do actual events, but he takes the pandemic a little more serious than some.


Perfect reply to this nonsensical Bernie Bro talking point. Cannot wait for Biden to lay it to rest tomorrow night.


You guys are insane.

It's had to have been said like 10 different times and ways on this board that the best thing for Biden is to let Trump ruin himself.


I don't disagree with you on that point, but I assumed that you arrived at that conclusion based on the belief that Biden is a doddering idiot/dementia patient who is incapable of speaking cogently. It's a common far right/far left talking point.

If I am wrong, I apologize.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 28, 2020 19:53:20

I’m very confifi.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Sep 28, 2020 20:15:38

well he isn't in his house. he does several online things a day from various locations. is doing a train tour after the debate etc etc.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Mon Sep 28, 2020 20:31:53

jamiethekiller wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:It's amazing that Biden is gonna go nearly the entire election cycle without ever campaigning. Truly the best thing that ever happened for him was being able to stay in his house and not have to talk to anyone.


I mean he campaigned for the Democratic nomination. And I'm sure he'd love to be able to do actual events, but he takes the pandemic a little more serious than some.


Perfect reply to this nonsensical Bernie Bro talking point. Cannot wait for Biden to lay it to rest tomorrow night.


You guys are insane.

It's had to have been said like 10 different times and ways on this board that the best thing for Biden is to let Trump ruin himself.


Then why not say it like that in a direct manner? Why did you bring up Biden’s house? Trump stayed in his house most of the time too, you know.

I think I know why
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