Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Squire » Tue Sep 29, 2020 07:21:10

CNN reporting that Trump waved off any formal debate prep.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 29, 2020 07:29:45

Squire wrote:New nickname for Trump ....broke-a-hontas
Seems to be trending


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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Tue Sep 29, 2020 07:39:19

The timing of Pascale incident and the story about he, Facebook and Cambridge strategically targeting African Americans in specific counties for shady, disenfranchise content sure is interesting.

Would be a helluva coincidence.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 29, 2020 08:03:56

Wolfgang622 wrote:
threecount wrote:Trump campaign teasing surprise invites for the debate tomorrow night...

here we go again...same playbook as 2016


I’d invite every contractor he ever stiffed, and every worker laid off as a result.


The length of that list would surely violate COVID-19 restrictions.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CFP » Tue Sep 29, 2020 08:35:05

Squire wrote:CNN reporting that Trump waved off any formal debate prep.

We’re a step closer to answering the thread’s question!

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Sarge » Tue Sep 29, 2020 08:56:43

I don't know who will win the debate, but there is no debate over who won last time, Ken Bone!.


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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:02:49

My biggest concern is that the media are again playing the expectations game and they are not going to evaluate on the basis on actual performance. The cnn story about no debate prep plays into it. Can they even verify if it is true?
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:04:28

The Savior wrote:Then why not say it like that in a direct manner? Why did you bring up Biden’s house? Trump stayed in his house most of the time too, you know.

I think I know why


People are way more sensitive(and paranoid) about this than I thought. Not everything has double meaning or some sort of coded language.

https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... 31c857903e

Since his Aug. 11 selection of California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate, Biden has had 22 days where he either didn’t make public appearances, held only virtual fundraisers or ventured from his Delaware home solely for church, according to an Associated Press analysis of his schedules. He made 12 visits outside of Delaware during that period, including Friday when he went to Washington and paid respects to the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.


Biden so far hasn’t spent the night anywhere while campaigning, flying back to Delaware to sleep at home every night. The cautious approach isn’t shared by Biden’s wife, Jill, who was in Washington with her husband on Friday morning but then flew to Maine, after making four campaign stops in Virginia the previous day. She’s going to Iowa, another state her husband has yet to visit in recent months, on Saturday.




It was a simple reflection that Biden has done the absolute bare minimum campaigning and is gonna end up winning the presidency. It's just crazy!

Edit: through the lense of every other campaign ever. He was even derided in the primaries for doing next to little or no campaigning and how broke his team was. It's astounding. That's it and that's all.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:12:57

jamiethekiller wrote:
The Savior wrote:Then why not say it like that in a direct manner? Why did you bring up Biden’s house? Trump stayed in his house most of the time too, you know.

I think I know why


People are way more sensitive(and paranoid) about this than I thought. Not everything has double meaning or some sort of coded language.

https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... 31c857903e

Since his Aug. 11 selection of California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate, Biden has had 22 days where he either didn’t make public appearances, held only virtual fundraisers or ventured from his Delaware home solely for church, according to an Associated Press analysis of his schedules. He made 12 visits outside of Delaware during that period, including Friday when he went to Washington and paid respects to the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.


Biden so far hasn’t spent the night anywhere while campaigning, flying back to Delaware to sleep at home every night. The cautious approach isn’t shared by Biden’s wife, Jill, who was in Washington with her husband on Friday morning but then flew to Maine, after making four campaign stops in Virginia the previous day. She’s going to Iowa, another state her husband has yet to visit in recent months, on Saturday.




It was a simple reflection that Biden has done the absolute bare minimum campaigning and is gonna end up winning the presidency. It's just crazy!


I'd rather this than what Trump did to win the presidency.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:37:24

He's old and there's a pandemic...limiting public appearances probably seems...wise.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:38:39

He didn't say it wasn't. It is definitely wild that a guy doing little campaigning is doing really well
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 29, 2020 09:39:17

Someone had asked if there was a good place to compare polls from 16 and today. Here is a decent piece from Nate Cohn on that question--

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/presi ... ng-misfire

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CFP » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:00:15

I guess there's a part 2 of the tax story out on NYT but I'm exhausted after reading part 1

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:05:35

Quick reminder that the election is already happening. At least 1.1 million have already cast their ballot.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby stevelxa476 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:11:28

The Dude wrote:He didn't say it wasn't. It is definitely wild that a guy doing little campaigning is doing really well


I don't think FDR did any campaigning in his 4th election, but obviously that's a different situation.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:12:48

And Trump will be challenging each and every one of them.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:13:15

philly people let me know when you get your ballot or notice of its shipment. just want to make sure mine doesn't disappear.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:21:10

TenuredVulture wrote:My biggest concern is that the media are again playing the expectations game and they are not going to evaluate on the basis on actual performance. The cnn story about no debate prep plays into it. Can they even verify if it is true?


heard a sound bite this morning where he was asked about debate prep and he said "i'm too busy running the country". I guess the suffix of "into the ground" was implied.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:26:52

Don't know how accurate Cook Report normally is. I do know they are generally conservative on moving their ratings of races, however they just moved Ohio and Iowa to tossup.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:36:24

jamiethekiller wrote:
The Savior wrote:Then why not say it like that in a direct manner? Why did you bring up Biden’s house? Trump stayed in his house most of the time too, you know.

I think I know why


People are way more sensitive(and paranoid) about this than I thought. Not everything has double meaning or some sort of coded language.

https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... 31c857903e

Since his Aug. 11 selection of California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate, Biden has had 22 days where he either didn’t make public appearances, held only virtual fundraisers or ventured from his Delaware home solely for church, according to an Associated Press analysis of his schedules. He made 12 visits outside of Delaware during that period, including Friday when he went to Washington and paid respects to the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.


Biden so far hasn’t spent the night anywhere while campaigning, flying back to Delaware to sleep at home every night. The cautious approach isn’t shared by Biden’s wife, Jill, who was in Washington with her husband on Friday morning but then flew to Maine, after making four campaign stops in Virginia the previous day. She’s going to Iowa, another state her husband has yet to visit in recent months, on Saturday.




It was a simple reflection that Biden has done the absolute bare minimum campaigning and is gonna end up winning the presidency. It's just crazy!

Edit: through the lense of every other campaign ever. He was even derided in the primaries for doing next to little or no campaigning and how broke his team was. It's astounding. That's it and that's all.


Trump slept everyday in his house or at one of his properties.
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