Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby Augustus » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:47:26

CalvinBall wrote:Yeah the control part was a problem. I think the questions were way worse, however. At points he even told Trump that he thinks he will like the next section. Ummm?


Agreed. Especially ridiculous was Joe having to answer for why the National Guard hasn't been called out in Portland.

Five years in, and the media still has no idea how to deal with Trump.

Also in 2016 Trump at least paid lip service to groups outside his base. Last night was completely directed at angry white suburbanites.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:00:27

Augustus wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Yeah the control part was a problem. I think the questions were way worse, however. At points he even told Trump that he thinks he will like the next section. Ummm?


Agreed. Especially ridiculous was Joe having to answer for why the National Guard hasn't been called out in Portland.

Five years in, and the media still has no idea how to deal with Trump.

Also in 2016 Trump at least paid lip service to groups outside his base. Last night was completely directed at angry white suburbanites.


The media are serving their own agenda--Trump is good for these people, and they're doing their best to prop him up.

That said, I'm not sure he did all that well with white suburbanites last night. I don't think they're going to like his Proud Boys moment, and I don't think they are going to like his willingness to undermine the election results. I also think a lot of them are unhappy about losing abortion rights.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:06:11

WilliamC wrote:Sort of like you have to promise a small child you will get them icecream if they stop whining.

Or me.

Yeah, that was what Wallace was doing. Appeasing the POTUS to stop being a petulant child on national TV. I didn't really care about that. Whatever it took to get him to shut up.

I think he did...OK but had some terrible moments, especially the portland bullshit.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 13:01:14

I did not know what Biden said when he said Inshalla, now I do: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics ... index.html

pretty funny
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Wed Sep 30, 2020 13:11:47

thephan wrote:I did not know what Biden said when he said Inshalla, now I do: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics ... index.html

pretty funny
I thought he said that but then was like 'nah he couldn't have'. It's a solid line.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 13:17:22

Graham, who spoke to The Daily Beast on the phone Tuesday evening, said he did not know whether the information presented by Ratcliffe was true and said he was not concerned with releasing the uncorroborated allegations to the public even with the presidential election just 35 days away.

"There are allegations from the CIA that the Clinton campaign was involved in Russia. I don't know if that is true,” Graham said. “It's not about whether it is true. It's about whether the FBI took [the allegations] seriously. That's the question. I supported the Mueller investigation. I don’t get why you wouldn’t look with the same suspicion with both campaigns. The point is what did they [the FBI] do with the information?"


Yep, Lindsey and Radciffe are on the side f the angels
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 13:21:56

Attorney General William Barr claimed earlier this month that bringing charges prior to the election was a possibility, despite the long-standing policy of the Department to not announce charges so close to Election Day. (same beast article about Radcliffe)

So are we headed toward Barr trying to cuff Biden and other key Democrats for the cameras? Makes you wonder: What Would Herr Gobbles do?
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Wed Sep 30, 2020 13:34:25

thephan wrote:Attorney General William Barr claimed earlier this month that bringing charges prior to the election was a possibility, despite the long-standing policy of the Department to not announce charges so close to Election Day. (same beast article about Radcliffe)

So are we headed toward Barr trying to cuff Biden and other key Democrats for the cameras? Makes you wonder: What Would Herr Gobbles do?


Nah, not happening. Hell, Barr is so reviled by all but the cultists that him making a show arrest of Biden would only help Joe.

Besides, Barr probably doesn't want to get on Biden's bad side since his interference in the election will definitely be investigated by Joe's AG.

Trump may avoid jail time, Barr won't be so lucky. Hopefully his eventual arrest and imprisonment will serve as a deterent against the further politization of the DOJ.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Sep 30, 2020 14:15:55

Is this a trap poll out today:

Rasmussen Reports (9/23 -9/29)
The latest national telephone and online survey finds Biden leading President Trump 51% to 43% among Likely U.S. Voters.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 14:30:38

traderdave wrote:Is this a trap poll out today:

Rasmussen Reports (9/23 -9/29)
The latest national telephone and online survey finds Biden leading President Trump 51% to 43% among Likely U.S. Voters.


Its OK Breibart has Trump up 20 and OANN has him up gold infinity, so he is definitely winning 4 terms until he can turn it over to his 4th wife, Ivankna
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby azrider » Wed Sep 30, 2020 14:47:45

this was an important debate aka showing, but no more debates for biden. he did well and i don't see any upside for him in doing any others. just go on the road and dance around and hit trump with jabs until election time. no need to get into a brawl.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 14:49:27

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311175155255660545

https://www.facebook.com/thelincolnproject.us/videos/smart/630071971216173/

I hope are running on Fox News around the country (Lincoln Project smashing Trump's debate performance and showing how "smart" he is). These F'ers are evil, what happens when they get released onto the world after the election?
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Sep 30, 2020 14:51:36

In the aftermath of the off-the-rails debate, the Commission on Presidential Debates said in a Wednesday statement that it is mulling structural changes moving forward.

“Last night’s debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues,” the CPD said. “The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly.”

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:00:56

Image

Borrow this?
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:08:26

Still refusing to denounce racist shit.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311380013325996036

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:12:27

momadance wrote:Still refusing to denounce racist #$!&@.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311380013325996036


But Tim Scott said that Trump misspoke. Oh poor Tim Scott, he needs to find himself a new god.

https://wpde.com/news/local/sen-tim-sco ... d-stand-by

“I think the president misspoke, and he needs to correct it. If he doesn’t correct it, I guess he didn’t misspeak.”

Seem unlikely to pluck TPB's from the sky and then misspeak
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby Eem » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:13:37

What are the odds Trump resigns after the election and makes Pence handle all the lame duck shit
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:16:53

thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:Still refusing to denounce racist #$!&@.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311380013325996036


But Tim Scott said that Trump misspoke. Oh poor Tim Scott, he needs to find himself a new god.

https://wpde.com/news/local/sen-tim-sco ... d-stand-by

“I think the president misspoke, and he needs to correct it. If he doesn’t correct it, I guess he didn’t misspeak.”

Seem unlikely to pluck TPB's from the sky and then misspeak


Today he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311379343684374528

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:17:08

Eem wrote:What are the odds Trump resigns after the election and makes Pence handle all the lame duck #$!&@


I sort of figured he'd just move out and leave the place abandoned. Total walk away leaving the nation in yet another bind.

I think it is as likely that he just goes batshit and uses his presidential powers to do insane things. Release every prisoner in any jail or prison, something insane with the military, gawd knows what EOs, etc.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 15:21:50

momadance wrote:
thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:Still refusing to denounce racist #$!&@.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311380013325996036


But Tim Scott said that Trump misspoke. Oh poor Tim Scott, he needs to find himself a new god.

https://wpde.com/news/local/sen-tim-sco ... d-stand-by

“I think the president misspoke, and he needs to correct it. If he doesn’t correct it, I guess he didn’t misspeak.”

Seem unlikely to pluck TPB's from the sky and then misspeak


Today he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311379343684374528


So he is just an idiot. And he is admitting it, except he is actually a really bad liar.
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