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Unread postby stevelxa476 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:49:47

Carter, Ford, Reagan, and Bush 1 all made it to at least 93.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:50:13

1 wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:
The Savior wrote:Just stay alive Joe


Man, please don’t even breathe that. It’s a reminder that he’s 78 years old and could fall over dead at any minute. Kind of thought that was something that was pretty rare these days what with all the advancements in technology, but so many of my friends’ fathers have gone that way - and my own.

It’s scary as fuck to think about it. He absolutely must make it to January 20, 2021 at 12PM.


Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like (modern- era) former Presidents live for a long, long time


Yes... but that doesn't mean they have to. One of my friends Dads was plenty wealthy and was playing racquetball at his club... and then he was dead. Another was similarly very wealthy and was a religious jogger... and one day in his driveway he was dead.

Shit happens.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby 1 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:55:37

Of course it does, but I always come back to that when I hear people wishing sudden death on the current president. Sadly, he’s going to live to be 106.

Also, this Rhodes Scholar thing is hilarious.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:22:24

Wolfgang622 wrote:
1 wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:
The Savior wrote:Just stay alive Joe


Man, please don’t even breathe that. It’s a reminder that he’s 78 years old and could fall over dead at any minute. Kind of thought that was something that was pretty rare these days what with all the advancements in technology, but so many of my friends’ fathers have gone that way - and my own.

It’s scary as fuck to think about it. He absolutely must make it to January 20, 2021 at 12PM.


Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like (modern- era) former Presidents live for a long, long time


Yes... but that doesn't mean they have to. One of my friends Dads was plenty wealthy and was playing racquetball at his club... and then he was dead. Another was similarly very wealthy and was a religious jogger... and one day in his driveway he was dead.

Shit happens.


So what you’re saying is don’t exercise.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:24:13

1 wrote:Also, this Rhodes Scholar thing is hilarious.


its incredible. gotta hand it to him

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:29:56

"She also is a Rhodes scholar," Trump's @PressSec
says of Amy Coney Barrett, who did not receive a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford, but instead received her BA from Rhodes College in Tennessee.


I didn't know what you were talking about.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:31:39

traderdave wrote:
Grotewold wrote:I still don't understand how Republicans get away with equating the stock market and "the economy." How many Americans care deeply about the former? And if it's 401-Ks that are so essential, how hard would it be to state how those fared in the Clinton and Obama years?

Like a lot of things, it feels like poor messaging from the Democrats.


Who is pushing that narrative now?

WRT messaging, I have seen pushback against the stock market = economy thing many times. I don't think it is necessarily a failure of Ds and, frankly, we have no way of really knowing whether or not people buy that equivalency no matter how much the GOP tries. Still, as thephan said, there are a large number of people who simply do not know any better. Surely there are some politicians that fall into that category but, by and large, politicians know exactly what they are doing. I think the GOP adds to the absurdity of the issue by solely focusing on the DJIA, which, as all of us know, only measures price movement of 30 companies. THIRTY out of about 3,500 publicly-traded companies on the two major exchanges in the US. Anyway, I know I am preaching to the choir so I'll stop now.


One thing that has changed over the last decade or so is that partisanship now influences voter assessment of the economy. "The economy" of course is not one thing--employment, wages, prices, and where we think things are going--are among the relevant factors that can go into an assessment of the economy. I also thing it's relevant that the pandemic has had a huge impact on many, but not so much on others.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:33:40

thephan wrote:
"She also is a Rhodes scholar," Trump's @PressSec
says of Amy Coney Barrett, who did not receive a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford, but instead received her BA from Rhodes College in Tennessee.


I didn't know what you were talking about.


Can't wait to tell Lil' Vulture she's a Rhodes Scholar!
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:35:16

The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.


Beyond Unreal. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/0 ... xes-424230

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:36:42

Gimpy wrote:All of you NJ voters, please remember the public questions on the ballot. Legalized marijuana is on the line and we’ll probably need it over the next few years.


Thank God for my card.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:54:31

thephan wrote:
"She also is a Rhodes scholar," Trump's @PressSec
says of Amy Coney Barrett, who did not receive a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford, but instead received her BA from Rhodes College in Tennessee.


I didn't know what you were talking about.


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"Um, that's what I have written here," @PressSec said, when asked whether it's true Judge Amy Coney Barrett was a Rhodes Scholar.

"She attended Rhodes College [in Memphis]," a reporter noted.

"So, my bad," McEnany said.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby 1 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:57:56

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby 1 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:01:29

thephan wrote:
"She also is a Rhodes scholar," Trump's @PressSec
says of Amy Coney Barrett, who did not receive a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford, but instead received her BA from Rhodes College in Tennessee.


I didn't know what you were talking about.


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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:08:06

thephan wrote:
The Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.


Beyond Unreal. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/0 ... xes-424230

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"I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down because I don't want to create a panic."
"As President, safeguarding the health and well-being of our citizens is one of my highest priorities."


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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby Augustus » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:54:17

Joe's dad made it to 86 and I believe he was a pretty hard drinker. Between genetics, not drinking, and not being fat, I think he'll hang in there.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:54:46

I am just super offended at that letter. I've never experienced true food insecurity, but it is an easy concept to grasp, so that is where I put a lot of my investment. Being fed has countless positive effects on people. The thought that my hard earned dollars spent for such a good cause come with a campaign message from someone who likely has never given this plight a thought repulses and infuriates me.
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:57:30

Biden opens up 13-point lead over Trump in new national poll

If he wins by 13 points Dems should also control the Senate pretty handedly
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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:58:08

Republicans do not want people to be able to vote. Example 78,659.

BREAKING: Gov. Abbott issues proclamation CLOSING (as of Oct. 2) satellite offices where voters can drop off completed mail-in ballots.
Counties can only have 1 dropoff point, he says.
Travis has 4, including 3 downtown.
Harris has 12.

Abbott says move, which also requires early voting clerks to let poll watchers observe ballot delivery, is an election security measure.
Clerks said the multiple dropoff spots were to help voters, particularly amid questions about Postal Service efficiency.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 01, 2020 13:59:00

Stay_Disappointed wrote:Biden opens up 13-point lead over Trump in new national poll

If he wins by 13 points Dems should also control the Senate pretty handedly


Dan Sullivan voted YES today on Schumer's protect the ACA bill. DAN SULLIVAN.

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Re: Who's the Master Debater? The Latest Politics Thread

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Thu Oct 01, 2020 14:07:56

CalvinBall wrote:Republicans do not want people to be able to vote. Example 78,659.

BREAKING: Gov. Abbott issues proclamation CLOSING (as of Oct. 2) satellite offices where voters can drop off completed mail-in ballots.
Counties can only have 1 dropoff point, he says.
Travis has 4, including 3 downtown.
Harris has 12.

Abbott says move, which also requires early voting clerks to let poll watchers observe ballot delivery, is an election security measure.
Clerks said the multiple dropoff spots were to help voters, particularly amid questions about Postal Service efficiency.


Yup, the good news is that there is no stemming the blue tsunami that is going to hit the GOP in its collective micropeen next month. The writing is on the wall.

FWIW, "election security" is doublespeak for "voter supression." This is yet another example of why those of you who are going to vote with a mail-in ballot should be dropping them off NOW.

I personally will be going to the polls to vote for Biden in his home state. We now know we can safely shop at grocery stores without fear of contracting COVID. How is going to your polling place any different?

Wear a mask, stay socially distanced, and you are golden.
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