Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:24:31

Bro, they said there would be 2 million deaths. Projections were wrong!! This many people die in their own swimming pools each year!!

by **jamiethekiller** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:31:15

love how the flattening the curve is now a right wing movement to open the states back up. can't go on reddit or facebook now without people sharing memes about WE'VE FLATTENED THE CURVE, OPEN EVERYTHING UP.

think we've discovered even with available hospital beds(which we seem to have plenty of in most locations) that the virus is going to kill you regardless of the level of care. back when we talked about flattening the curve it was thought that just putting someone on a vent would be enough to have them weather the storm and recover.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:34:34

brothers fiance is a nurse on the covid floor at a local hospital. when she got back from work this morning the neighbors all greeted her with signs of appreciation. thought it was very nice of them to do.

by **Bucky** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:36:30

yes, the virus is much nastier than originally characterized (an upper respiratory infection). If effects most major organs and is even causing brain clots (strokes) in young-ish people. it's a particularly nasto mofo. i think maybe the earth is getting better at producing antibodies to destroy its attackers.

by **The B1G Piece** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59:09

jamiethekiller wrote:love how the flattening the curve is now a right wing movement to open the states back up. can't go on reddit or facebook now without people sharing memes about WE'VE FLATTENED THE CURVE, OPEN EVERYTHING UP.

think we've discovered even with available hospital beds(which we seem to have plenty of in most locations) that the virus is going to kill you regardless of the level of care. back when we talked about flattening the curve it was thought that just putting someone on a vent would be enough to have them weather the storm and recover.

Exactly my point. It's time to have real conversations about the next steps, but some are spending time trying to spin the data to fit a narrative on something we didn't even fully understand six weeks ago. It's just incredibly selfish behavior.

by **pacino** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:13:27

The B1G Piece wrote:
Werthless wrote:And if all the infections happened at once, then good care couldn't be provided.

Around and around we go.

It is amazing we're over six weeks into lockdown, have over 1 million cases and approaching 60,000 deaths and there are people still MMQBing the lockdown.

Open it up, BABY. Papa's gotta roll them bones at the casino!

by **heyeaglefn** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:13:47

I really think it being an election year has factored in to a lot of this as well, the country is so divided and it continues to get more political with WH vs Governors vs Mayors etc.

by **Bucky** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:22:07

amazingly, the PA curve ends on pretty much the exact date that it did in the beginning on the healhdata projections. total number of deaths is significantly higher (it started near 2K, then dropped below one 1K, now at 2600) but the timing is the same- 5/17.

by **Eem** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:43:34

Bucky wrote:amazingly, the PA curve ends on pretty much the exact date that it did in the beginning on the healhdata projections. total number of deaths is significantly higher (it started near 2K, then dropped below one 1K, now at 2600) but the timing is the same- 5/17.

I wonder how hard it was to factor into the model -- if it got factored in at all -- how badly nursing homes got hammered in PA. I think close to 60% of the deaths are in those environments

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:44:51

Eem wrote:
Bucky wrote:amazingly, the PA curve ends on pretty much the exact date that it did in the beginning on the healhdata projections. total number of deaths is significantly higher (it started near 2K, then dropped below one 1K, now at 2600) but the timing is the same- 5/17.

I wonder how hard it was to factor into the model -- if it got factored in at all -- how badly nursing homes got hammered in PA. I think close to 60% of the deaths are in those environments

There is a rehab center in Broomall where 28 people died and something like 107 of the ~130 people there tested positive.

by **The B1G Piece** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 13:52:27

Some good data

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/23/upshot/five-ways-to-monitor-coronavirus-outbreak-us.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#hotspots

by **Eem** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:00:30

CalvinBall wrote:
Eem wrote:
Bucky wrote:amazingly, the PA curve ends on pretty much the exact date that it did in the beginning on the healhdata projections. total number of deaths is significantly higher (it started near 2K, then dropped below one 1K, now at 2600) but the timing is the same- 5/17.

I wonder how hard it was to factor into the model -- if it got factored in at all -- how badly nursing homes got hammered in PA. I think close to 60% of the deaths are in those environments

There is a rehab center in Broomall where 28 people died and something like 107 of the ~130 people there tested positive.

Yes, and the virus is obviously going to be a massive killer in those environments. It'll spread because of close quarters and among the most vulnerable population. That probably destroyed the modeling

by **Phred** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:03:37

High school classmate of mine was an ER doc in Manhattan and committed suicide.

This pandemic sucks.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/nyc-er-doc-lorna-breens-suicide-leaves-friends-colleagues-shaken/

by **Slowhand** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:11:41

Phred wrote:High school classmate of mine was an ER doc in Manhattan and committed suicide.

This pandemic sucks.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/nyc-er-doc-lorna-breens-suicide-leaves-friends-colleagues-shaken/

I read about that yesterday. Very sad.

by **Slowhand** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:15:18

Businesses are more or less empty, but it feels like traffic on the road has stayed the same. WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING?!

by **Bill McNeal** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:18:19

Round in circles baby

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:49:20

398 new deaths in NJ, so the accelerated fall off option is out the window.

3 day total for Sun-Tuesday is 579 vs. 683 last Sun-Tuesday. It's getting better, but it is not getting better quickly.

Last Wednesday was 310. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:50:20

Bill McNeal wrote:Round in circles baby

by **Slowhand** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 14:58:59

Just realized Cinco De Mayo is coming up. This could get ugly.

by **The Dude** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 15:19:30

Slowhand wrote:Businesses are more or less empty, but it feels like traffic on the road has stayed the same. WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING?!

We just go for a drive to get out of the house.

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