mickbayne wrote:

The Dude wrote:War expressed his opinion long ago, and now is just finding anything that supports it, rather than look at everything

Also admitted he's sometimes trolling or just really drunk

Slowhand wrote:

mickbayne wrote:

The Dude wrote:War expressed his opinion long ago, and now is just finding anything that supports it, rather than look at everything

Also admitted he's sometimes trolling or just really drunk

It’s the middle of the day, so...drunk it is!

Eem wrote:I think it's possible to both say this is likely way more serious than the flu -- for a variety of reasons -- but also there is plenty of evidence to suggest the death rate would plummet if we were able to count the millions of people who had this and didn't know it or had it and didn't get tested

heyeaglefn wrote:With the flu and the death rate with that, how do they calculate it? I've had the flu plenty of times but never officially test positive. Do they guess how many people have the flu?

heyeaglefn wrote:With the flu and the death rate with that, how do they calculate it? I've had the flu plenty of times but never officially test positive. Do they guess how many people have the flu?

CDC uses a mathematical model to estimate the numbers of influenza illnesses, medical visits, hospitalizations, and deaths in the United States, (1-4) as well as, the impact of influenza vaccination on these numbers. The methods used to calculate the burden of influenza have been described previously (1-2). More recently, the same model was adopted to estimate influenza-associated deaths in the United States. This methodology has been used to retroactively calculate influenza burden, including deaths, going back to 2010.
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We first look at how many in-hospital deaths were observed in FluSurv-NET. The in-hospital deaths are adjusted for under-detection of influenza using methods similar to those described above for hospitalizations using data on the frequency and sensitivity of influenza testing. Second, because not all deaths related to influenza occur in the hospital, we use death certificate data to estimate how likely deaths are to occur outside the hospital. We look at death certificates that have pneumonia or influenza causes (P&I), other respiratory and circulatory causes (R&C), or other non-respiratory, non-circulatory causes of death, because deaths related to influenza may not have influenza listed as a cause of death. We use information on the causes of death from FluSurv-NET to determine the mixture of P&I, R&C, and other coded deaths to include in our investigation of death certificate data. Finally, once we estimate the proportion of influenza-associated deaths that occurred outside of the hospital, we can estimate the deaths-to-hospitalization ratio.

Data needed to estimate influenza-associated deaths may lag for up to two years after the season ends. When this is not yet available for the season being estimated, we adjust based on values observed in prior seasons (e.g., the 2010-2011 season through the 2016-2017 season) and update the estimates when more current data become available.

pacino wrote:the opinion piece; i wouldn't call it an article

i don't claim to know warszawa's motivations, just saying that the writer of the piece is not to be trusted on much of anything


his ideal healthcare world is where we'd all have high-deductible catastrophic plans

The most important implication of these findings is that the number of infections is much greater than the
reported number of cases.

azrider wrote:the air is noticeably cleaner here in phx. going to be a shame when this is in the rear view mirror and there's still an oil and car glut, and everyone and their mother is going to go out and buy a f150 and it'll go back to shit again.

The Dude wrote:My wife's cousin was supposed to get married next month in Miami. Obviously, she cancelled it, but last week just reset it for October. Not sure why she did it that close

swishnicholson wrote:An article without an apparent axe to grind about the the studies showing greater prevalence/less mortality

Quagland wrote:

The Dude wrote:My wife's cousin was supposed to get married next month in Miami. Obviously, she cancelled it, but last week just reset it for October. Not sure why she did it that close

My wedding is supposed to be August 8th. Although we haven't officially pulled the trigger, we've already been in contact with the venue, band, photographer, etc. We're waiting until May 15th (at the suggestion of the venue), but we've already decided we can't hold it then. Even if restrictions are lifted, there's no way we're going to feel right about putting 200 people into a room and asking them to dance.

Our first choice would be to at least get married on the 8th with just our immediate families (if that's even going to be possible), and then just pushing the celebration to next spring/summer. It sucks, but we keep reminding ourselves that there are people with bigger problems than this.

azrider wrote:the air is noticeably cleaner here in phx. going to be a shame when this is in the rear view mirror and there's still an oil and car glut, and everyone and their mother is going to go out and buy a f150 and it'll go back to shit again.

azrider wrote:the air is noticeably cleaner here in phx. going to be a shame when this is in the rear view mirror and there's still an oil and car glut, and everyone and their mother is going to go out and buy a f150 and it'll go back to shit again.