Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Apr 22, 2020 14:58:11

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Apr 22, 2020 15:54:18

maybe this will finally convince people that electric vehicles are the way to go

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby swishnicholson » Wed Apr 22, 2020 15:56:41

Bucky wrote:maybe this will finally convince people that electric vehicles are the way to go


Won't be great for public transit or carpooling in the short run though.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby PSUsarge » Wed Apr 22, 2020 16:27:00

swishnicholson wrote:
Bucky wrote:maybe this will finally convince people that electric vehicles are the way to go


Won't be great for public transit or carpooling in the short run though.

Both, but especially the former, are probably in trouble for a while as it is.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Apr 22, 2020 16:37:08

Bucky wrote:maybe this will finally convince people that electric vehicles are the way to go

Gas needs to be more expensive for that to happen.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Apr 22, 2020 16:43:18

maybe if there's enough verifiable climate data and a new administration and senate the can push to reallocate subsidies from the oil industry to the electric vehicle industry

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby NickSixers » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:04:12

If you need a laugh, the clips of Anderson Cooper interviewing the mayor of Las Vegas are insane. Her proudly stating that she volunteered the city as the "control" group is a showstopper.

Not sure how to embed tweets, but here's the link: https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253041723510587394?s=20
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Slowhand » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:04:57

NickSixers wrote:If you need a laugh, the clips of Anderson Cooper interviewing the mayor of Las Vegas are insane. Her proudly stating that she volunteered the city as the "control" group is a showstopper.


Poor 702.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:25:18

NickSixers wrote:If you need a laugh, the clips of Anderson Cooper interviewing the mayor of Las Vegas are insane. Her proudly stating that she volunteered the city as the "control" group is a showstopper.

Not sure how to embed tweets, but here's the link: https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253041723510587394?s=20


That clip has SNL written all over it. Paging Kate McKinnon.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:31:56

It's amazing the people that win elections

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:32:04

Slowhand wrote:
NickSixers wrote:If you need a laugh, the clips of Anderson Cooper interviewing the mayor of Las Vegas are insane. Her proudly stating that she volunteered the city as the "control" group is a showstopper.


Poor 702.


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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Wed Apr 22, 2020 17:59:14

Bucky wrote:maybe if there's enough verifiable climate data and a new administration and senate the can push to reallocate subsidies from the oil industry to the electric vehicle industry

You need include your disclaimer as part owner of Tesla when you shill for Elon!
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:00:41

The Savior wrote:The idea that the WHO or China or anyone for that matter would immediately know the severity of this virus is so laughable. People may have been dying in October for all we know but we would be none the wiser for months especially if it was killing folks with pre existing conditions.

The WHO or China could have withheld because neither knew enough to communicate (or knew anything was amiss at all).



ABC and someone else reported a few days ago about US intel saying there was some kind of respiratory illness disrupting things in September in Wuhan.

The problem with this is how does disruption that's bad enough to be noticed by our intell not get noticed by Chinese doctors and journalists? And what about the science that looks at the genetics and says it likely originated in late October?

Not sure how to square the report of a september virus with everything else we know. Maybe the most likely scenario is one where the intell is bad in the Trump administration and we should just believe the journalists and scientists.

My mom and dad also believe they had it in Nov-Dec. My mom was sick for over a month and they got sick on a cruise through Greece/Israel/Italy.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby thephan » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:16:54

The guy leading the effort to develop a vaccine was removed because he questioned Trump's (point to his head) intuition about drugs that would work.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:17:16

heyeaglefn wrote:The virus is actually saving lives due to less pollution. Not sure if that is true but saw someone post an article on Reddit saying with cleaner air we will have less deaths than will die from the virus.


There will be less deaths from poor air quality (it's horrible how many lives are lost to coal), but not enough to offset the number of deaths from the virus. It's not possible to know the numbers for sure, but there are a ton of lives lost to bad air.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby thephan » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:17:23

Hey the CDC director is there in DC at the podium to eat his words because he said things that Donald doesn't like
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby swishnicholson » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:17:46

TenuredVulture wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
NickSixers wrote:If you need a laugh, the clips of Anderson Cooper interviewing the mayor of Las Vegas are insane. Her proudly stating that she volunteered the city as the "control" group is a showstopper.


Poor 702.


She's a Bryn Mawr alum, and her husband is from Philly and went to Haverford.


I would not have guessed that. she appeared to have sampled too much Las Vegas hospitality.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby The Savior » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:22:14

Monkeyboy wrote:
The Savior wrote:The idea that the WHO or China or anyone for that matter would immediately know the severity of this virus is so laughable. People may have been dying in October for all we know but we would be none the wiser for months especially if it was killing folks with pre existing conditions.

The WHO or China could have withheld because neither knew enough to communicate (or knew anything was amiss at all).



ABC and someone else reported a few days ago about US intel saying there was some kind of respiratory illness disrupting things in September in Wuhan.

The problem with this is how does disruption that's bad enough to be noticed by our intell not get noticed by Chinese doctors and journalists? And what about the science that looks at the genetics and says it likely originated in late October?

Not sure how to square the report of a september virus with everything else we know. Maybe the most likely scenario is one where the intell is bad in the Trump administration and we should just believe the journalists and scientists.

My mom and dad also believe they had it in Nov-Dec. My mom was sick for over a month and they got sick on a cruise through Greece/Israel/Italy.


There is far more uncertainties than certainties at this point.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby thephan » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:26:57

Woohoo, Don went with the old thumb up his ass/shoot-from-the-hip in suggesting that the virus might not come back at all in the fall. And if it does it'll be small pockets and less virulent. What a f****** dumbass
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby thephan » Wed Apr 22, 2020 18:30:14

He wanted to clear something up from the podium (I don't know why I'm watching, I guess I just turned it on and got stuck with the stupidity) and that thing he wanted to clear up was the fake news media is making this a bigger deal than it needs to be and will never be satisfied, because the plan is that Trump got it wrong. Jesus

and he's gone on and on about how he doesn't get credit for ventilators and the media never gives him credit for anything. What a whiny prick.

he's talking about how successful we've been. How he moved so fast, some would say too fast, and the fake news media lies about that. Okay that's enough time to turn it off.
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