You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 22, 2020 17:24:50

Rand Paul making a bunch of the GOP Senate conference self quarantine possibly causing the final bill to move more toward Dem priorities is the most *chef's kiss* tea party/Freedom Caucus kind of move possible

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Mar 22, 2020 18:03:19

momadance wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:So what would happen if Trump cancelled the election? It's unlikely he would and up as president because his term would expire, but there is a decent chance it would descend into chaos because the new president would be "chosen by a subset of a Senate that is missing a third of its members." Putin would love it but I don't see how it would help Trump.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/21/21188152/ ... gopSBKp-mc


That very article you linked states that Trump cannot cancel the election.


It's more complicated than that. He can't legally cancel the election, but he could do it will emergency powers. For example, declare martial law or whatever. I mean, I did read the article.


Martial Law or not, only Congress can delay elections.



Yes, but if does do something, it would make the election worthless and cause complete chaos.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Mar 22, 2020 19:23:53

Can't believe Trump is even running again since becoming president cost him billions and billions of dollars.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Sun Mar 22, 2020 19:24:28

He is such a fucking mess.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Mar 22, 2020 19:25:32

Now he's good with foreign aid.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Sun Mar 22, 2020 19:52:58

CFP wrote:So really, where is Biden? When do we get concerned?


Why isn't Bernie voting on the Senate floor today?

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 22, 2020 22:04:36

the Dems voting against that shit bill is already being spun by the right-wingers as them not wanting to help people
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 22, 2020 22:11:12

pacino wrote:the Dems voting against that shit bill is already being spun by the right-wingers as them not wanting to help people

Pretty sure no one should be surprised.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Sun Mar 22, 2020 23:57:38

Oh good he's still tweeting...

WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Mar 23, 2020 09:10:21

Aside from the general shoutiness, WTF is he talking about? Break it down: 15 days is return from quarantine; the cure doesn't exist; the problem is potential death and long term health effects; and whatever.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Mon Mar 23, 2020 09:12:45

He’s saying he will sacrifice lives for the good of the economy.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 09:22:27

The Savior wrote:He’s saying he will sacrifice lives for the good of the economy.


Seeing as he has not ordered a national quarantine or lockdown, he has no power over this decision. He cannot overrule governors' and mayors' orders to quarantine/shelter-in-place.

He is just trying to start a narrative in the hopes that his cultists start exerting pressure on the aforementioned elected officials to "return to normal."
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Mar 23, 2020 09:32:57

Going to get a lot of people killed, and rather than getting things to a place when stuff starts opening back up, people will have the confidence to shop/spend freely, there will be continued community outbreaks/horror stories in local medical systems/etc. so things will be shitty.

His inability to look more than one move ahead on the chess board remains staggering. It's in your own political interest, you giant orange turd. Need to have the brakes fully on until 1) the curve is bending down and 2) we have very clear testing/tracking procedures set up.

That sure as shit isn't happening by early next week.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:04:16

Maybe he is just working an angle. Good real estate on the cheap available soon. That is what a guy who runs a bankruptcy shell game might think, and if the conman is positioned to make it happen, well then hell yes!

In the mean time remember this: Governors have been very complimentary to Trump!!
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15:31

via Politico:

Bloomberg's spending is just unfathomable. The billionaire spent a bit under $467 million in February alone, with $31.7 million worth of debt that's more-or-less just an accounting issue for him (filing ). His spending, excluding the debt, for the entirety of the campaign was $876 million — and now he's not going through with his plans for his super PAC.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:25:04

The Savior wrote:He’s saying he will sacrifice lives for the good of the economy.

surely this will not backfire

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:57:03

pacino wrote:via Politico:

Bloomberg's spending is just unfathomable. The billionaire spent a bit under $467 million in February alone, with $31.7 million worth of debt that's more-or-less just an accounting issue for him (filing ). His spending, excluding the debt, for the entirety of the campaign was $876 million — and now he's not going through with his plans for his super PAC.


Had a friend working for him. Friend HATES him. And now even moreso that he dumped everyone he made promises too. Turns out the self absorbed billionaire's run for president was in fact all about himself.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:43:47

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gop-se ... e-praying/

“And of course, all the senators are going to seek medical advice as to what action we should take,” Romney said before admitting that he and other Republican senators had lunch with Paul two days earlier.

But just minutes later Sen John Kennedy (R-LA) insisted that doctors had told him that he does not have to quarantine himself away from others.

“We’re getting advice so far from the attending physician’s office that we don’t need to quarantine,” Kennedy revealed.

Maybe they will continue to meet for group lunches. That may be in the country's best interests, that they can huddle up and figure out the best messaging for managing this hoax.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54:31

jerseyhoya wrote:Going to get a lot of people killed, and rather than getting things to a place when stuff starts opening back up, people will have the confidence to shop/spend freely, there will be continued community outbreaks/horror stories in local medical systems/etc. so things will be shitty.

His inability to look more than one move ahead on the chess board remains staggering. It's in your own political interest, you giant orange turd. Need to have the brakes fully on until 1) the curve is bending down and 2) we have very clear testing/tracking procedures set up.

That sure as shit isn't happening by early next week.


That's part of what I don't understand. All he has to do is follow the advice of his experts and he'll likely be reelected because of this virus. I know he's a sociopath and incapable of empathy or compassion, but he just needs to listen to the experts and people will see him a competent leader in a crisis.

Of course, americans have very short memories. He might get the same positive effect by being competent from August to election day.

On the other hand, a narrative is starting to develop. He got rid of that pandemic group in the white house, then he got rid of that field person in China, then he botched the test kits and early response, then he sounded like an idiot that even many of his supporters noticed. Biden should be able to string together those facts to show a narrative of how Trump directly exacerbated the virus through his actions. Maybe things will be too chaotic for that narrative to hit home with the voters but it's definitely there for the harvest.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54:54

I guess Kennedy's doctor is this guy":

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