Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:51:52

Warszawa wrote:with the current information we have about trump the republicans would probably not convict. However if there are official impeachment proceeding how much more do you think is going to be exposed?


I apologize if this comes across as dismissive but does it matter? Rs have a lengthy record of giving zero fucks about anything Trump does. Republicans (not all) love to tout themselves as America- and Constitution-loving patriots but they are only that to the extent it benefits them. In this latest scandal, it really should not matter whatsoever if Trump threatened to withhold aid if they didn't investigate Biden. That obviously makes thing much worse but absent that wrinkle, our President still has admitted, several times, that he pushed a foreign government to influence our elections (for his benefit) by investigating a political rival. It does not get much more UNpatriotic than that.

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby momadance » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:00:47

Wilbur Ross sound asleep at the UN.

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1176515915036471296

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:02:25

Dave Weigel
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MONMOUTH pol of NH (trend from May)

Warren: 27% (+19)
Biden: 25% (-9)
Sanders: 12% (-6)
Buttigieg: 10% (+1)
Harris: 3% (-3)
Booker: 2% (-)
Gabbard: 2% (+2)
Klobuchar: 2% (-)
Steyer: 2% (+2)
Yang: 2% (+1)
O’Rourke: 1% (-1)
Williamson: 1% (+1)

Gabbard makes the October debate.

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:04:23

administration sources told Fox News that the reason for the freeze on Ukrainian aid was tied to concerns about corruption. Sources said that Trump wanted to be confident that the incoming administration of Volodymyr Zelensky was going to take steps to end corruption before releasing the funding.


Confident that Zelensky would investigate the person/persons being named as corrupt? This sounds ever closer to exactly what was being reported.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:20:47

momadance wrote:Wilbur Ross sound asleep at the UN.

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1176515915036471296


Image

In the city, the mighty city, Wilbur sleeps today...
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:34:10



Goes nicely with Trump thumping Greta Thunberg by retweeting her with a disingenuous platitudes about her bright future.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Uncle Milty » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:39:12

CalvinBall wrote:
Dave Weigel
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1m
MONMOUTH pol of NH (trend from May)

Warren: 27% (+19)
Biden: 25% (-9)
Sanders: 12% (-6)
Buttigieg: 10% (+1)
Harris: 3% (-3)
Booker: 2% (-)
Gabbard: 2% (+2)
Klobuchar: 2% (-)
Steyer: 2% (+2)
Yang: 2% (+1)
O’Rourke: 1% (-1)
Williamson: 1% (+1)

Gabbard makes the October debate.

Trending exactly as the (R)s want
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby momadance » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:49:47

thephan wrote:Goes nicely with Trump thumping Greta Thunberg by retweeting her with a disingenuous platitudes about her bright future.


Check out her twitter bio lol

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:51:53

thephan wrote:

Goes nicely with Trump thumping Greta Thunberg by retweeting her with a disingenuous platitudes about her bright future.


"If we really wanted to help the environment, President Trump has done a good job on this....."

I really wish the other guy's follow-up would've been "name one positive thing Trump has done for the environment" rather than buying into the vegan discussion. Also, that one DB calling Greta a "mentally ill Swedish child" was really fucking disgusting. I'd say he should be ashamed of himself but you actually have to have a conscious to experience shame.

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:29:56

Howard Fineman says Pelosi will announce impeachment inquiry this afternoon. What a day.

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:31:41

CalvinBall wrote:Howard Fineman says Pelosi will announce impeachment inquiry this afternoon. What a day.


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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:43:54

then there are others who are saying she is simply going to announce a committee that will look into possible impeachment

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:44:53

CalvinBall wrote:Howard Fineman says Pelosi will announce impeachment inquiry this afternoon. What a day.


House Dems are moving toward a vote Wednesday on a resolution condemning Trump's Ukraine call, but it won't call for his impeachment yet, per Dem sources. Impeachment/investigations will be the focus of a Pelosi-Dem cmte chairmen mtg later today, followed by a full Dem Caucus. To be clear, the Dem resolution won't call for Trump's impeachment. Pelosi and other party leaders waiting to hear from members today. Count is more than 150 House Dems want an impeachment inquiry, and that number is rising quickly


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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:50:59

a resolution will really set him straight

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby JUburton » Tue Sep 24, 2019 13:54:27

CalvinBall wrote:then there are others who are saying she is simply going to announce a committee that will look into possible impeachment
now this is some goddamn leadership

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 14:05:42

A sub-tweet to the picture of Wilbur napping with Pence in the foreground is that if Pence had any decency what so ever he would check Ross' pulse.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 24, 2019 14:33:59

@realDonaldTrump
I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine....
2:12 PM · Sep 24, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

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....You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call. No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo! This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!
2:12 PM · Sep 24, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 24, 2019 14:37:49

he didn't write those

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby The Sarge » Tue Sep 24, 2019 14:42:15

Will we even be able to trust the transcript? The White House has put out false transcripts in the past.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Uncle Milty » Tue Sep 24, 2019 14:42:25

Bucky wrote:he didn't write those

maybe he caught the auto-correct of "squid porquois"

I'm convinced this is walked back before actual release.
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