thephan wrote:Oh, like the Mueller Report

My point remains that only dyed-in-the-wool Trumpettes are going to care about the findings of a Putin stooge. I doubt Ukraine is even going to investigate the Biden family given the negative press coverage Trump's call with their leader has received.

The “her emails” villianizing of Biden won’t work, mostly because he is not Hilary. True Trump lunatics aside, most people in this country like Biden, even if they don’t want him to be President.

I dunno, if you think Biden is the most electable candidate because he’s the most capable of turning people who don’t pay full attention who might otherwise vote Trump, I think you have to also worry about those people falling for misinformation.

06hawkalum wrote:

thephan wrote:Oh, like the Mueller Report

My point remains that only dyed-in-the-wool Trumpettes are going to care about the findings of a Putin stooge. I doubt Ukraine is even going to investigate the Biden family given the negative press coverage Trump's call with their leader has received.

Ukraine doesn't even have to investigate. Trump and his people just have to keep saying that Biden and his son id crooked stuff in Ukraine. The media will report it and many people will believe it.

the CFPB is now trying to argue it shouldn't exist

pacino wrote:the CFPB is now trying to argue it shouldn't exist

Only because of a monarch/dictator mindset: interferes with presidential executive authority. This article 2 argument need to be put to rest. The framers never thought that freedom from a foreign king would set up a domestic absolute ruler within the interpretation of its founding document.

tripped across this old story:

I 1988 Spy magazine sent “refund” checks for $1.11 to 58 millionaires and billionaires. A little less than half cashed their check. Spy then sent those 26 another check for $0.64, 13 of those cashed that check which triggered one last for Spy for $0.13. Who would cash a $0.13 check? Donald Trump and the uncle of Jamal Khashoggi.

Phred wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:My point remains that only dyed-in-the-wool Trumpettes are going to care about the findings of a Putin stooge. I doubt Ukraine is even going to investigate the Biden family given the negative press coverage Trump's call with their leader has received.

Ukraine doesn't even have to investigate. Trump and his people just have to keep saying that Biden and his son id crooked stuff in Ukraine. The media will report it and many people will believe it.

Gimpy wrote:I dunno, if you think Biden is the most electable candidate because he’s the most capable of turning people who don’t pay full attention who might otherwise vote Trump, I think you have to also worry about those people falling for misinformation.

It only needs to stay in the news cycle to cause some damage. "Biden, Ukraine, investigation, corruption" is all some will hear and and the less discerning will be influenced. Then when the memes hit social media even more will be influenced.

It's less about switching a vote from Biden to Trump. If Biden is the nominee, it's about riling Trump voters and keeping Biden voters at home.

I think the real idea is trying to keep the nomination away from Biden. Trump thinks his chances are significantly better against anyone else.

Rudy spent the busy wee hours of the morning fanning the flames. All he favorites are there, except Hilary. Obama, accusations of money laundering, the implication that (there would have had to have been) Oval Office orders to ignore money laundering, international search warrants, "pay-for-play", etc. He demands that the Dems investigate Joe, Hunter, and anyone else named Biden. .

"What Biden did is a disgrace. What his son did is a disgrace. His son took money from Ukraine, his son took money from China. A lot of money from China. China would love to see — can think of nothing they’d rather see than Biden get in. Cause they would take this great deal that we’re about to make and they would really have themselves a deal.”

- Douchebag at the UN General Assembly

Wow, that whole scenario sounds really familiar somehow. Plus, of course, Trump and his team of ghouls show there is no bottom to the depths they will sink by attacking a potential rival's family. Perhaps they can start taking some shots at Beau while they are at it.

Let’s hope the Dems have some sort of effective defense this time around rather than looking like flat-footed idiots (no intention at flat-foot shaming intended).

"I do think that perhaps releasing this kind of a transcript could set a bad precedent. He is willing to do it, I think. But there is a lot of other people, lawyers and such that may have a problem with it. So we will see what happens," Grisham said.

Right. Like he was willing to release his tax returns, until he wasn't. Like he was willing to be interviewed by Mueller, until he wasn't. Give us a fucking break, Stephanie. Another liar from the Sarah Huckabee Sanders School of Deception and Denial.

seems more should be being made about the unexpected extra $140M in aid. Not that it will not be useful to the Ukrainian defense needs, but where did it come from and why? That is more then an extra 50%

traderdave wrote:"I do think that perhaps releasing this kind of a transcript could set a bad precedent. He is willing to do it, I think. But there is a lot of other people, lawyers and such that may have a problem with it. So we will see what happens," Grisham said.

Right. Like he was willing to release his tax returns, until he wasn't. Like he was willing to be interviewed by Mueller, until he wasn't. Give us a fucking break, Stephanie. Another liar from the Sarah Huckabee Sanders School of Deception and Denial.

Mnuchin's line was about the other world leaders' expectation of privacy.

Wonder how many excuses they'll try until the next shiny object.

Dinesh D’Souza compared Greta Thunberg to a Nazi. Among other, Patton Oswald savaged him for it.

I'd post the tweet, but it would break the swear filter.

traderdave wrote:"What Biden did is a disgrace. What his son did is a disgrace. His son took money from Ukraine, [b]his son took money from China. A lot of money from China. China would love to see — can think of nothing they’d rather see than Biden get in. Cause they would take this great deal that we’re about to make and they would really have themselves a deal.”[/b]

- Douchebag at the UN General Assembly

Wow, that whole scenario sounds really familiar somehow. Plus, of course, Trump and his team of ghouls show there is no bottom to the depths they will sink by attacking a potential rival's family. Perhaps they can start taking some shots at Beau while they are at it.

How Many Trump Products Were Made Overseas? Here's the Complete List

Made in China: Shirts, ties, mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, "kitchen items," lighting fixtures, pens, shampoo, body wash, moisturizers, shower caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet leashes, and bath towels.

And also eyeglasses.

Eyeglasses?

Eyeglasses.

Netanyahu, Gantz discuss rotating as Israel PM

Just send Bibi to jail and keep it yourself.

I have an idea of something they can both rotate on

Dems need to announce impeachment proceedings like tomorrow right?

Uncle Milty wrote:I have an idea of something they can both rotate on

Really kind of scary how similar our reactions are.