Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby stevemc » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:33:06

CalvinBall wrote:Trump: I didn't need to do this but I wanted to do it much faster


goes hand in hand with "emergency"!

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:35:05

CalvinBall wrote:Trump: I didn't need to do this but I wanted to do it much faster

Amazing
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:35:49

CalvinBall wrote:Trump: I didn't need to do this but I wanted to do it much faster


Lol...he BLEW IT. No chance this stands up in court.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:39:39

06hawkalum wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Trump: I didn't need to do this but I wanted to do it much faster


Lol...he BLEW IT. No chance this stands up in court.


Sitting up there trashing the courts will certainly not earn him any favors.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:40:02

Image

Japan is now safe.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:44:43

momadance wrote:"Enjoy your life" and "Rocket ships were flying over Japan" were my two favorite parts.


For those who were not viewing, can you elaborate? Were these planned remarks? Answers to questions? Just some terrible riffing?
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:46:13

thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:"Enjoy your life" and "Rocket ships were flying over Japan" were my two favorite parts.


For those who were not viewing, can you elaborate? Were these planned remarks? Answers to questions? Just some terrible riffing?


No they weren't planned. Nothing really was. He pretty much said that thanks to himself, DPRK was no longer launching "rocketships" over Japan ... and when he congratulated Burr on him confirmation he said "enjoy your life" lol.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:46:51

06hawkalum wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Trump: I didn't need to do this but I wanted to do it much faster


Lol...he BLEW IT. No chance this stands up in court.


Is the court going to decide if this is an emergency or not? If so, then I agree with you. But I don't think that's their role. They will rule on whether or not he has the constitutional right to declare an emergency, which I think he does because of the NEA. It's not up to them to adjudicate the correctness of his decision. Unless I'm wrong the NEA gave the discretion to the president, complete with his/her whims and prejudices.

I like to take a step back now and then and wonder what would the GOP have done/said if Obama had acted as Trump has. This is pretty much the exact type of situation they were scared Obama would do, except with him it was declare an emergency and seize all their guns and institute sharia law. Their rights are genuinely being threatened by this clown and they are too fucking stupid to realize it.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:47:48

Second question, did this go on for an hour? I heard that 'he has the real statics', and 'we have no idea the reality' or some such, but of course refuses to provide the basis for these statements.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:48:58

thephan wrote:Second question, did this go on for an hour? I heard that 'he has the real statics', and 'we have no idea the reality' or some such, but of course refuses to provide the basis for these statements.


When a reporter asked him about his stats, because the DHS stats are completely different, he just said he has his own "sources" and the DHS stats are completely wrong lol. Just making shit up on the spot as usual.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby traderdave » Fri Feb 15, 2019 13:44:46

momadance wrote:
thephan wrote:Second question, did this go on for an hour? I heard that 'he has the real statics', and 'we have no idea the reality' or some such, but of course refuses to provide the basis for these statements.


When a reporter asked him about his stats, because the DHS stats are completely different, he just said he has his own "sources" and the DHS stats are completely wrong lol. Just making #$!&@ up on the spot as usual.


Honestly, how is a line like that not completely terrifying to nearly every American (and even non-Americans)?

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Feb 15, 2019 13:59:44

Uncle Milty wrote:Anybody ready to hop on my expatriate train yet?

If this holds up America is dead.


Nah, we have to be the change that we desire. We cannot do that from the outside.

Anyway, this won't hold up. Something will give.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 14:00:10

From The Hill

President Trump claimed Friday that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe had nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to reach a peace agreement with North Korea.

The president, speaking during a White House presser, remarked that he would "probably never get" the annual award, which is given to those who make significant strides toward achieving world peace and diplomacy.

"In fact, I think I can say this. Prime Minister Abe of Japan gave me the most beautiful copy of a letter that he sent to the people who give out a thing called the Nobel [Peace] Prize," Trump said Friday.

"He said, 'I have nominated you … respectfully on behalf of Japan. I am asking them to give you the Nobel Peace Prize,'" Trump continued, before adding that he would "probably never get it" even though "many other people feel that way too."


I wonder how Abe feels right about now. My assumption is that this is fiction, but what do you do when the POTUS says you did something so dramatic?
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 14:14:39

CBS cut away from Trump's national emergency declaration to return to "The Price is Right".
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Feb 15, 2019 14:29:12

thephan wrote:From The Hill

President Trump claimed Friday that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe had nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to reach a peace agreement with North Korea.

The president, speaking during a White House presser, remarked that he would "probably never get" the annual award, which is given to those who make significant strides toward achieving world peace and diplomacy.

"In fact, I think I can say this. Prime Minister Abe of Japan gave me the most beautiful copy of a letter that he sent to the people who give out a thing called the Nobel [Peace] Prize," Trump said Friday.

"He said, 'I have nominated you … respectfully on behalf of Japan. I am asking them to give you the Nobel Peace Prize,'" Trump continued, before adding that he would "probably never get it" even though "many other people feel that way too."


I wonder how Abe feels right about now. My assumption is that this is fiction, but what do you do when the POTUS says you did something so dramatic?



If it's true, he was just playing to Trump's enormous ego because he knew he would never win. Of all the possible moves, stroking Trump's ego is probably the best way to keep him from screwing you over.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Feb 15, 2019 14:34:18

JUburton wrote:Kinda want SCOTUS to completely defer to the president on this so the next dem president can do literally everything by executive action!

It will be a fascinating case before the court with cross cutting pressures on both the conservative and liberal justices. My guess is it gets spiked by the liberals + Roberts and/or Gorsuch, but can make an argument that the court could wind up at 9-0 on either side of it.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Slowhand » Fri Feb 15, 2019 15:14:32

9:36 AM · Nov 20, 2014

@realDonaldTrump wrote:Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Feb 15, 2019 15:57:13

Unfortunately hypocrisy is not grounds for overturning his decision.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 17:51:08

Americans Who Were Detained After Speaking Spanish In Montana Sue U.S. Border Agency


I sort of half heard this story on NPR this morning when I was getting ready. I did not know it was in Montana.

In footage, CBP Agent Paul O'Neal is seen telling one of the women, "Ma'am, the reason I asked you for your ID is because I came in here and I saw that you guys are speaking Spanish, which is very unheard of up here."


I wonder what would have happened if they were tourists. Haul them in? Deport them? It would be pretty hard to prove they were not here legally. The Agent would likely become completely lost in the entry stamps, not that that would prove legal presence.

The women were born in California, and Texas, not that they carry proof of that either.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Fri Feb 15, 2019 18:58:33

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/15/poli ... index.html

Washington (CNN) Prosecutors said for the first time that they have evidence of Roger Stone communicating with WikiLeaks, according to a new court filing from special counsel prosecutors.

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