Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby traderdave » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:28:47

Judge voids plea deal with Manafort; ruled he intentionally lied to FBI, special counsel, and grand jury.

And feel free to change the title.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:30:48

Shoot. Had a decent title brewing too.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:34:48

Politics: Marching Forward; In Like a Lyin, Out Like a Manafort

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:38:05

That AOC clip of her inquiring about ethics rules for the president was interesting. She had a pretty solid grasp on the fact that the rules for Congress people are reasonably stringent, and that there are basically no rules for the president. Maybe the operating assumption was that the highest office in the land would be held by someone with integrity.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby traderdave » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:51:36

CalvinBall wrote:Politics: Marching Forward; In Like a Lyin, Out Like a Manafort


Like it better than mine. :lol:

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 20:53:11

Yeah. She's in the right town I think. Still needs to find the right street. She kept switching between hypothetical examples and stumbled a lot over her words.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Bucky » Wed Feb 13, 2019 21:18:45

traderdave wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Politics: Marching Forward; In Like a Lyin, Out Like a Manafort


Like it better than mine. :lol:


if you edit your original post you can change the thread title!

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 21:24:16

Knew that was coming!

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Feb 13, 2019 21:49:11

Uncle Milty wrote:Wait for a better suggestion, tho


"Alles klar, Ms. Klobuchar?"

That's all I got.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Feb 13, 2019 23:51:12

“Manafort & Stone: I Beg Your Pardon?”
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"A man who tells lies . . . merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it."

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Thu Feb 14, 2019 01:11:27

Why did Whitaker, who is leaving say The Mueller report will be out in Feb when it is clear Mueller is not finished.

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Have yet to sing.

In other news I am running for Town council.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 09:49:01

Uncle Milty wrote:FEMA chief resigned. Another of Only the Best People falls


Yesterdays news. The missing piece that I head this morning is that he vowed to repay the $150K+ that he ran up in personal travel using Government transportation between DC and NC. Specifically it was reported government vehicle. That figure is so high that I am in disbelief. He's been on the job just over 100 weeks at best? Did he need to take his staff with him or something?
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Squire » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:15:13

Thought it was great to see Mueller take down Manafort yesterday. Manafort seems like a guy who would side with outerspace aliens attempting to take over earth if you paid him enough. It would however seem to indicate that Manafort won't be providing any useful anti-Trump testimony though as the prosecutor has destroyed any credibility that Manafort would have.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:32:30

Also in the 'heard on the news' is that his lawyers position this is just some misunderstanding. He misremembered or did not fully understand the questions. Maybe is Mueller should have asked about any Russians hanging out for casual conversation in the back room at Kushner's gangster like club at the 666 property that he should be aware of or something like that.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:45:39

Squire wrote:Thought it was great to see Mueller take down Manafort yesterday. Manafort seems like a guy who would side with outerspace aliens attempting to take over earth if you paid him enough. It would however seem to indicate that Manafort won't be providing any useful anti-Trump testimony though as the prosecutor has destroyed any credibility that Manafort would have.

The vast majority of useful info any of these people will provide will be in the form of contemporaneous emails or in Cohen's case maybe recordings, and that will be picked up hopefully in subpoenas. They are professional liars who have been on every side of every issue, and coming out to say what the prosecution wants to hear once their ass is on the line isn't going to do much I don't think. Going to have to come in the form of a paper trail, one way or another.

If they're cooperating, they can help the special counsel string the pieces together more easily, which I'm sure would be an aid, but may not be necessary (or possible) depending on what the facts ultimately are.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby traderdave » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:29:45

thephan wrote:Also in the 'heard on the news' is that his lawyers position this is just some misunderstanding. He misremembered or did not fully understand the questions. Maybe is Mueller should have asked about any Russians hanging out for casual conversation in the back room at Kushner's gangster like club at the 666 property that he should be aware of or something like that.


If that is true, Manafort should fire his attorney's immediately for incompetence. Rules #1a and #1b in testifying are to carefully consider your answer before speaking and to NEVER answer a question that is unclear or that you do not fully understand. So, if their explanation is actually true (it isn't), he was poorly prepared to give testimony.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Squire » Thu Feb 14, 2019 14:09:04

Amazon abandons plan to put HQ2 on Long Island. Will go forward with Northern Virginia and Nashville. No others.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby traderdave » Thu Feb 14, 2019 14:40:03

Squire wrote:Amazon abandons plan to put HQ2 on Long Island. Will go forward with Northern Virginia and Nashville. No others.


Anxiously awaiting AOC's hottake.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby JUburton » Thu Feb 14, 2019 14:40:36

traderdave wrote:
Squire wrote:Amazon abandons plan to put HQ2 on Long Island. Will go forward with Northern Virginia and Nashville. No others.


Anxiously awaiting AOC's hottake.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Feb 14, 2019 14:42:48

Ha awesome

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