From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Thu Jun 28, 2018 18:39:13

Hannity is going to eat his hat.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 19:24:02

Wonder if Romney will be a foil to Trump? I sure hope so. He will never lose an election in that state and has been outspoken before.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 20:06:43

Police say it was targeted (which we all suspected)
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 20:09:18

Also Maxine Waters had to cancel an event because elf a death threat.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Thu Jun 28, 2018 20:14:58

#GreatAgain

I loathe what we've become. Fucking sad.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby philliesphhan » Thu Jun 28, 2018 20:59:52

Not that it needs to be said, but hannity is a fucking garbage human being
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby philliesphhan » Thu Jun 28, 2018 21:08:08

FakeNews says the motive was a defamation lawsuit the shooter had against the paper which was thrown out by a judge
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Soren » Thu Jun 28, 2018 22:53:16

foh rococo. If you want a banana republic that bad why don't you go move to one.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:21:55

CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo

Or neither!

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby gr » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:23:37

The point of all this is that the courts are going to be way more conservative than the country is and too many people dont understand what that means.

Its about 100 more things than Roe v Wade.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:25:49

jerseyhoya wrote:
CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo

Or neither!


I mean, really. This is the sort of paper whose bread and butter is Board of Ed meetings, police blotter and high school lacrosse results. I know Lexington and Concord were out of the way, too, but it seemed pretty unlikely that the culture wars would come to a head here.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:26:11

If we have to decimate all farmers in the Midwest to make that happen so be it

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:28:23

swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo

Or neither!


I mean, really. This is the sort of paper whose bread and butter is Board of Ed meetings, police blotter and high school lacrosse results. I know Lexington and Concord were out of the way, too, but it seemed pretty unlikely that the culture wars would come to a head here.


Also it is still to yell motive when the shooting is basically still happening. Don't be Hannity or Trump.

Hell, Orlando we didn't really find out until recently that the nigh club was basically a random target because some cops scared the shooter away from his original target.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:43:29

JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


you ended up being right, it wasnt

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:54:37

JUburton wrote:
Rococo4 wrote:
JUburton wrote:lmao at the notion that mcconnell wouldn't have gotten rid of the appellate court filibuster the INSTANT judicial nominees were being held up.


or to think that had the situation been on the other foot in 2016, the Democrats wouldnt have done the exact same thing to leave a vacant liberal seat open. It's all politics and power. Both sides have done it, basically since Bork nomination in 1987.
Bork was scuttled because it went from a swing vote to a hard right and the democrats had the senate. The Senate approved Kennedy 97-0. BOTH SIDES


Yeah I know the history of it. But the character assissination and ramping up of these attacks really started then. Which basically led to Bush 41 nominating Souter because they were afraid of what the other side would say and how they would react to a conservative with a "paper trail" (you know Souter, who was going to overturn Roe v Wade).

republicans played too nice for too long with judicial nominees, especially when they starting blocking BUsh's nominees like Estrada for Circuit Courts. We were playing t-ball, the other side was playing hardball. Republicans are always supposed to nominate "consensus" nominees while Democrats are free to nominate Ginsberg and Sotomayor. We aren't going to play that game anymore.

It was dumb strategy to try and block Gorsuch, no matter how pissed you guys were (and not really you guys because none of us have votes, I'm just refering to the Senate Democrats), because it is unlikely the 50 votes would have been there to change the rules now with the "swing" justice retiring.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:56:05

CalvinBall wrote:both sides have basically left a supreme court vacancy open for a year?


right, that was definetly the first escalation...It was just the next step, it just so happened McConnell was holding the cards.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jun 29, 2018 00:00:35

Rococo4 wrote:
JUburton wrote:
Rococo4 wrote:
JUburton wrote:lmao at the notion that mcconnell wouldn't have gotten rid of the appellate court filibuster the INSTANT judicial nominees were being held up.


or to think that had the situation been on the other foot in 2016, the Democrats wouldnt have done the exact same thing to leave a vacant liberal seat open. It's all politics and power. Both sides have done it, basically since Bork nomination in 1987.
Bork was scuttled because it went from a swing vote to a hard right and the democrats had the senate. The Senate approved Kennedy 97-0. BOTH SIDES


Yeah I know the history of it. But the character assissination and ramping up of these attacks really started then. Which basically led to Bush 41 nominating Souter because they were afraid of what the other side would say and how they would react to a conservative with a "paper trail" (you know Souter, who was going to overturn Roe v Wade).

republicans played too nice for too long with judicial nominees, especially when they starting blocking BUsh's nominees like Estrada for Circuit Courts. We were playing t-ball, the other side was playing hardball. Republicans are always supposed to nominate "consensus" nominees while Democrats are free to nominate Ginsberg and Sotomayor. We aren't going to play that game anymore.

It was dumb strategy to try and block Gorsuch, no matter how pissed you guys were (and not really you guys because none of us have votes, I'm just refering to the Senate Democrats), because it is unlikely the 50 votes would have been there to change the rules now with the "swing" justice retiring.

Very much all of this.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 00:01:08

i just think all the hate toward Kennedy is ridiculous, he served for 30 years, gave the left a few very high profile landmark wins, and they trash him as he goes out the door as an 81 year old.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 29, 2018 00:34:07

Lolololol

Yeah, Rs had been too congenial in the face of the big, strong Dems

And Kennedy is a fool
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Fri Jun 29, 2018 00:52:48

swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo

Or neither!


I mean, really. This is the sort of paper whose bread and butter is Board of Ed meetings, police blotter and high school lacrosse results. I know Lexington and Concord were out of the way, too, but it seemed pretty unlikely that the culture wars would come to a head here.


OTOH, and no disrespect for first responders, but do you think we can maybe get a little word from POTUS on the low-hanging fruit of recognizing journalists who have died in the line of duty, hardly for the first time? I don't expect it to sound sincere, but it does seem like an easy bone to throw out there. Rather amazing that this prospect seems improbable.
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