From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:45:52

Rococo4 wrote:I voted for Trump, I'm glad I did, and it was for this moment. I don't care what else happens if he is able to replace Scalia and Kennedy with two, young, solid conservatives. Bonus if he replaces Thomas next summer.

Of course Kennedy was going to retire. You could see it in his rulings this year. He is a Republican, generally conservative, his family are Republicans, and was appointed by a Republican president. He'll never have a better chance to be replaced by a similar, not opposite, replacement. And he is 81.

I hope blowing up the 60 vote rule for judges by Reid et al to pack the DC Circuit was worth it. It was for me.


Obama packing the courts with two more total appointments than GWB.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:47:47

trump is on a pace that is nearly double that fwiw.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:49:56

by 'pack' you mean confirm judges for open spots?

the filibuster is pretty dumb, and I've been fairly consistent on that. it's an anti-democratic device.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CFP » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:50:11

LOL doesn't care what else happens as long as we have the Courtz. There's a hot take. It's fine to feel the way you do Rococo, but saying you don't care about anything else that happens sure is something.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:55:35

JUburton wrote:lmao at the notion that mcconnell wouldn't have gotten rid of the appellate court filibuster the INSTANT judicial nominees were being held up.


or to think that had the situation been on the other foot in 2016, the Democrats wouldnt have done the exact same thing to leave a vacant liberal seat open. It's all politics and power. Both sides have done it, basically since Bork nomination in 1987.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 28, 2018 14:56:43

both sides have basically left a supreme court vacancy open for a year?

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:01:04

Berks County perspective on outcome of Janus
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:02:10

CalvinBall wrote:both sides have basically left a supreme court vacancy open for a year?

no, but Biden had a speech once 30 years ago that was ignored :q

Democrats are too wimpy to have held it open, anyway.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:06:08

Rococo4 wrote:
JUburton wrote:lmao at the notion that mcconnell wouldn't have gotten rid of the appellate court filibuster the INSTANT judicial nominees were being held up.


or to think that had the situation been on the other foot in 2016, the Democrats wouldnt have done the exact same thing to leave a vacant liberal seat open. It's all politics and power. Both sides have done it, basically since Bork nomination in 1987.
Bork was scuttled because it went from a swing vote to a hard right and the democrats had the senate. The Senate approved Kennedy 97-0. BOTH SIDES

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:07:53

Scuttled is a great word and should be used more often than for nominations.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby TomatoPie » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:24:40

JUburton wrote:Scuttled is a great word and should be used more often than for nominations.



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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:39:03

JUburton wrote:
Rococo4 wrote:
JUburton wrote:lmao at the notion that mcconnell wouldn't have gotten rid of the appellate court filibuster the INSTANT judicial nominees were being held up.


or to think that had the situation been on the other foot in 2016, the Democrats wouldnt have done the exact same thing to leave a vacant liberal seat open. It's all politics and power. Both sides have done it, basically since Bork nomination in 1987.
Bork was scuttled because it went from a swing vote to a hard right and the democrats had the senate. The Senate approved Kennedy 97-0. BOTH SIDES

6 Republicans voted against Bork; it wasn't purely partisan
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:45:44

The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CFP » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:46:50

JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:48:58

CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo
Yes I've seen this but virulent anti media animus is also part of the President's stump speech. Obviously he hasn't called for shooting reporters (and it seems Milo has) but he's not helping.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:51:14

This broke into the soccer coverage, and one of the anchors on FOX5 is sobbing on air. It's not great.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:55:39

Better send some prayers and thoughts.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jun 28, 2018 16:12:37

Sadly the prayer warriors were no match for the bullet warriors.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby momadance » Thu Jun 28, 2018 16:39:36

A White House spokeswoman said President Donald Trump was briefed on the shooting. Lindsay Walters, the spokeswoman, said “our thoughts and prayers are with all that are affected.”


Didn't take long.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 28, 2018 18:33:45

CFP wrote:
JUburton wrote:The newsroom of The Capital, an Annapolis newspaper was shot up today. Reports of multiple dead, dozens wounded. I'm sure it wasn't a far right nut job egged on by the president of the united states. Definitely not.


Probably not the president this time, just Milo


Milo, pffft. The culprit is obvious, according to Sean Hannity:

“The suspect though has been apprehended, according to the sheriff. And we’ll continue to follow that story. It’s so sad that there are so many sick, demented, and evil people in this world. It really is sad,” Hannity said.

But he soon pivoted to talking about Waters, who is facing the wrath of Republicans and some Democrats for telling protesters in Los Angeles to “push back on” members of the Trump administration.

“I’ve been saying now for days that something horrible was going to happen because of the rhetoric. Really, Maxine?”
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