slugsrbad wrote:Finally a lead Republican is pushing back on Trump a little, albeit in regards to a disgusting immigration policy. Last week, President Trump waved the white flag and told House Republicans to stop wasting time trying to pass an Immigration bill since it would just die in the Senate anyway. One brave Republican leader said today the House Republicans should soldier on anyway, and that man was... Donald Trump.

HOUSE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PASS THE STRONG BUT FAIR IMMIGRATION BILL, KNOWN AS GOODLATTE II, IN THEIR AFTERNOON VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS WON’T LET IT PASS IN THE SENATE. PASSAGE WILL SHOW THAT WE WANT STRONG BORDERS & SECURITY WHILE THE DEMS WANT OPEN BORDERS = CRIME. WIN!

Love that he all capped this tweet, really gets across the dotty old racist yelling at the Fox News program that most of his tweets were missing.

I never pushed the Republicans in the House to vote for the Immigration Bill, either GOODLATTE 1 or 2, because it could never have gotten enough Democrats as long as there is the 60 vote threshold. I released many prior to the vote knowing we need more Republicans to win in Nov.

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Man Charged With Threatening to Kill Ajit Pai’s Family

Hopefully Democrats cool it with their rhetoric that could influence or directly lead to violence.

you're better than this but maybe not

jerseyhoya wrote:

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Man Charged With Threatening to Kill Ajit Pai’s Family

Hopefully Democrats cool it with their rhetoric that could influence or directly lead to violence.

you're better than this but maybe not

I am probably not better than this, whatever that means.

It seems like angry left wing rhetoric leading to violence and threatened violence is also a problem, but what do I know?

06hawkalum wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Man Charged With Threatening to Kill Ajit Pai’s Family

Hopefully Democrats cool it with their rhetoric that could influence or directly lead to violence.

you're better than this but maybe not

I am probably not better than this, whatever that means.

It seems like angry left wing rhetoric leading to violence and threatened violence is also a problem, but what do I know?

Sounds like you have a bad case of whataboutism. You should see a doctor for that before it spreads any further.

joboggi wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

thephan wrote:

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police

José Grinda spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime fwiw. No need to worry little Don.

that's pretty clearly what we're dealing with. It's organized crime and money laundering, or that's where it started.

This just in to the newsroom.Trump laundered ukranian money. Working on their own, the press figured out the details

Lions and tigers and bears.

http://www.electoral-vote.com

Let's put the Donald where he belongs

jerseyhoya wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Man Charged With Threatening to Kill Ajit Pai’s Family

Hopefully Democrats cool it with their rhetoric that could influence or directly lead to violence.

you're better than this but maybe not

I am probably not better than this, whatever that means.

It seems like angry left wing rhetoric leading to violence and threatened violence is also a problem, but what do I know?

Sounds like you have a bad case of whataboutism. You should see a doctor for that before it spreads any further.

A guy, who appears to have been an apolitical nutjob with a grievance against a local paper, shoots up their office. This is a teachable moment that shows the horrible outcomes that result from Trump's anti-media rhetoric or something.

A guy gathers details on the family of the FCC commissioner and threatens to kill them over net neutrality repeal. Pointing this out is whataboutism. OK.

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JUburton wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Man Charged With Threatening to Kill Ajit Pai’s Family

Hopefully Democrats cool it with their rhetoric that could influence or directly lead to violence.

you're better than this but maybe not

I am probably not better than this, whatever that means.

It seems like angry left wing rhetoric leading to violence and threatened violence is also a problem, but what do I know?

Sounds like you have a bad case of whataboutism. You should see a doctor for that before it spreads any further.

A guy, who appears to have been an apolitical nutjob with a grievance against a local paper, shoots up their office. This is a teachable moment that shows the horrible outcomes that result from Trump's anti-media rhetoric or something.

A guy gathers details on the family of the FCC commissioner and threatens to kill them over net neutrality repeal. Pointing this out is whataboutism. OK.

In the first case, actual, and grievous harm was done. It's possible that constant reminders from the far right that the media is the enemy had nothing to do with this. It's also possible that the years long campaign against the media by the wealthy right (who weirdly enough stand to benefit from the lack of an investigative free press) and escalation by the president helped create an environment that allowed this nutter to think this was acceptable. Not to mention the fact that their gun laws allow a stalker/harasser to own a shotgun.

Even if this case had nothing to do with that, threats of violence, implicit or explicit, has become part and parcel of their message. I don't recall any elected officials calling Ajit Pai an enemy of the people. The right has put literal crosshairs on mailers. It has said a war is coming. It has called womens health providers baby killers. It has emboldened literal nazis to employ tactics of the terrorists they're so scared of in charlottesville. It tells these people that this is acceptable in their 'culture war' https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hu ... f7fb127?eu

Threatening to murder anyone's family is very bad. And this person deserves to be held accountable for their action. The guy that shot up the congressional softball practice...also awful. There are just enough of these bad actors on the left that the right can point them out and go 'see! them too!' while continuing their rhetoric that makes threats of violence to actual violence standard operating procedure on their side without thinking they're complete hypocrites.

pacino wrote:Susan Collins think Neil Gorsuch wouldn't overturn Roe v Wade.

Lol, I can't tell if she's lying to herself or simply to us.

CalvinBall wrote:What about that end times video the NRA put out or Alex Jones claiming Dems are going to launch a civil war against Rs on July 4th? Or Milo telling vigalabtes to gun down journalists?

Maybe I miss it, but I'd be interested in seeing similar examples from the left.

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:Michael Cohen resigned as the deputy finance chair of the RNC

how the hell was he still the deputy finance chair of the RNC?

I told my friend about this the other day when he said Cohen wasn't really part of the GOP and was just some rogue lawyer. I don't think he believed me.

Warszawa wrote:Winning the Civil War was the worst thing that ever happened to this country. Can you imagine what the Confederate States of America would look like today? A theocratic land where racism is a way of life, the media is an enemy of the state and science is not to be trusted.