From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:13:48

Pre-emptively starting a new thread with the news of the NY AG charging the Trump Foundation and its board of directors (Ivanka, Jr., and Eric).
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:15:36

Birthday Boy has thoughts:

Now that I am back from Singapore, where we had a great result with respect to North Korea, the thought process must sadly go back to the Witch Hunt, always remembering that there was No Collusion and No Obstruction of the fabricated No Crime.


So, the Democrats make up a phony crime, Collusion with the Russians, pay a fortune to make the crime sound real, illegally leak (Comey) classified information so that a Special Councel will be appointed, and then Collude to make this pile of garbage take on life in Fake News!


The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!...Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:08:05

so part of the things that will be disclosed today is apparently texts from a FBI agent that said that they'd stop Trump from becoming President. I'm sure that's going to go well with the deep state conspiracy nuts and White House
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:32:52

Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland says she is not ruling out potential retaliatory sanctions against the Trump Organization in response to the U.S. president's recently announced tariffs.
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The politician who posed the initial question, Regina-Lewvan MP Erin Weir, invoked the Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act as a way to sanction foreign nationals.

“It is an interesting one, given President Trump’s alleged ties with Russia,” Weir said, according to the magazine. “I can see how it would be seen as a radical measure, but we are confronted with a radical reality from the Trump administration."


Canada is having this discussion about the US. Chew on that.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:49:57

for everyone very upset about Corey Steward running in Virginia, we have our very own out racist in Lou Barletta running for Senate in PA. please do what you can to prevent him from winning.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:52:07

pacino wrote:for everyone very upset about Corey Steward running in Virginia, we have our very own out racist in Lou Barletta running for Senate in PA. please do what you can to prevent him from winning.


Violate the Hatch Act? Got it. Thanks for covering any fallout.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:02:52

slugsrbad wrote:
pacino wrote:for everyone very upset about Corey Steward running in Virginia, we have our very own out racist in Lou Barletta running for Senate in PA. please do what you can to prevent him from winning.


Violate the Hatch Act? Got it. Thanks for covering any fallout.

except you and me

and you can vote, donate, put a sign up, etc :)
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:13:20

Steward would be just a small handful of us. :) Barletta is your problem.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:38:13

slugsrbad wrote:Pre-emptively starting a new thread with the news of the NY AG charging the Trump Foundation and its board of directors (Ivanka, Jr., and Eric).

there's an email trail where campaign officials were involved with the charity :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump personally directed funds and it's in his handwriting

dead to rights
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:49:47

the IG reported showed Comey used his gmail account on multiple occasions to discuss FBI business


extremely careless of him
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:58:49

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Pre-emptively starting a new thread with the news of the NY AG charging the Trump Foundation and its board of directors (Ivanka, Jr., and Eric).

there's an email trail where campaign officials were involved with the charity :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump personally directed funds and it's in his handwriting

dead to rights

directed to his campaign?

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:00:06

pacino wrote:the IG reported showed Comey used his gmail account on multiple occasions to discuss FBI business


extremely careless of him


How fucking stupid are these people? This seems like FBI 101-type stuff.

On the Foundation stuff, it won't add up to a hill of beans; though I certainly hope he is held to account at some point. You can bet that this lawsuit eliminates any chance that Trump sits down with Mueller.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:01:52

pacino wrote:the IG reported showed Comey used his gmail account on multiple occasions to discuss FBI business


extremely careless of him


Why do so many politicians and government employees use their personal emails for business? I don't think I've ever used my personal email account for work.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:05:43

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Pre-emptively starting a new thread with the news of the NY AG charging the Trump Foundation and its board of directors (Ivanka, Jr., and Eric).

there's an email trail where campaign officials were involved with the charity :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump personally directed funds and it's in his handwriting

dead to rights


Hoping for some bombshells, but the charges seem pretty petty.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:05:51

more info:
The lawsuit charges that “Trump used charitable assets to pay off the legal obligations of entities he controlled, to promote Trump hotels, to purchase personal items, and to support his presidential election campaign.”

The lawsuit examines Trump’s behavior in Iowa, when he withdrew from a Republican debate and instead held a fundraiser for veterans groups. “In 2016, the Board knowingly permitted the Foundation to be coopted by Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and thereby violated its certificate of incorporation and state and federal law by engaging in political activity and prohibited related party transactions.”

The Trump Foundation made an improper in-kind contribution of at least $2.82 million that “provided Mr. Trump and the Campaign a means to take credit at campaign rallies, press briefings, and on the Internet, for gifts to veterans charities.”

Other allegations include making a $100,000 payment to the Fisher House Foundation to settle legal claims against Mar-A-Lago by the City of Palm Beach, making a $158,000 payment to the Martin B. Greenberg Foundation to settle legal claims against Trump National Golf Club and making a $10,000 payment to the Unicorn Children’s Foundation for a painting of Trump bought at an auction for that charity.

Another allegation is that the Trump Foundation didn’t have an investment policy, even though New York law requires one. “Although in recent years the average monthly value of the Foundation’s assets was over $1 million, the Foundation kept its funds in a money market account, earning negligible interest.”
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:08:41

pacino wrote:more info:
The lawsuit charges that “Trump used charitable assets to pay off the legal obligations of entities he controlled, to promote Trump hotels, to purchase personal items, and to support his presidential election campaign.”

The lawsuit examines Trump’s behavior in Iowa, when he withdrew from a Republican debate and instead held a fundraiser for veterans groups. “In 2016, the Board knowingly permitted the Foundation to be coopted by Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and thereby violated its certificate of incorporation and state and federal law by engaging in political activity and prohibited related party transactions.”

The Trump Foundation made an improper in-kind contribution of at least $2.82 million that “provided Mr. Trump and the Campaign a means to take credit at campaign rallies, press briefings, and on the Internet, for gifts to veterans charities.”

Other allegations include making a $100,000 payment to the Fisher House Foundation to settle legal claims against Mar-A-Lago by the City of Palm Beach, making a $158,000 payment to the Martin B. Greenberg Foundation to settle legal claims against Trump National Golf Club and making a $10,000 payment to the Unicorn Children’s Foundation for a painting of Trump bought at an auction for that charity.

Another allegation is that the Trump Foundation didn’t have an investment policy, even though New York law requires one. “Although in recent years the average monthly value of the Foundation’s assets was over $1 million, the Foundation kept its funds in a money market account, earning negligible interest.”


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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:12:06

swishnicholson wrote:
pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Pre-emptively starting a new thread with the news of the NY AG charging the Trump Foundation and its board of directors (Ivanka, Jr., and Eric).

there's an email trail where campaign officials were involved with the charity :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump personally directed funds and it's in his handwriting

dead to rights


Hoping for some bombshells, but the charges seem pretty petty.

they're finally going after what amounts to a tax shelter in one of these fake charities. I hope they go after far more of them. rich people use them like candy to boost their profile/save money.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Grotewold » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:13:38

Feel like yesterday's Cohen story is getting short shrift, even for attention addled Trumpworld

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:14:02

Bill McNeal wrote:
pacino wrote:the IG reported showed Comey used his gmail account on multiple occasions to discuss FBI business


extremely careless of him


Why do so many politicians and government employees use their personal emails for business? I don't think I've ever used my personal email account for work.

many are old and never learned how to use email, let alone use it properly. Comey's 57 so he really doesn't have much of an excuse. i'm starting to find all this email stuff hilarious; absolutely everyone from every party and political persuasion has been improperly handling emails.
edit: I refuse to even pull up my union email on a commonwealth PC. I don't know why anyone would do a similar sort of thing.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Sarge » Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:30:26

slugsrbad wrote:Birthday Boy has thoughts:



The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!...Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle.



How exactly could the foundation give out more than it took in? I don't get that.
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