CalvinBall wrote:JH still embraces the horrid enablers like Ryan and McConnell and the spineless Marco Rubio. Somehow those guys are good Republicans. I can't delineate between them and Trump. Ryan is unable to call out a member for promoting Nazism, but it's not Trump's party or something.

gr wrote:I've always #$!&@ hated kennedy.

Doll Is Mine wrote:jh is what Paul Ryan is in the Trump era.

pacino wrote:

gr wrote:I've always #$!&@ hated kennedy.

No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice,
and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage.

Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right

slugsrbad wrote:

pacino wrote:

gr wrote:I've always #$!&@ hated kennedy.

I don't get how you can #$!&@ hate Kennedy outside of blinded partisanship. He was a conservative Justice and wrote so many blood boiling-ly infuriating decisions; however, he also voted on some landmark liberal cases. He has helped preserve Roe v. Wade, expanded gay rights in the bedroom, and finally penned the opinion in Obergefell.

No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice,
and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage.

Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right

pacino wrote:i think he's a weasel

the only reason we're supposed to think he's OK is because the court is so conservative in general. you admit he's a conservative Justice but to many in the public he's a moderate because the media has portrayed him as such for years.

slugsrbad wrote:

pacino wrote:i think he's a weasel

the only reason we're supposed to think he's OK is because the court is so conservative in general. you admit he's a conservative Justice but to many in the public he's a moderate because the media has portrayed him as such for years.

How so though? That just seems like an optics issue, and not anything substantive. I'm not asking for you or anyone to be OK with him, he gave us #$!&@ Citizens United, but there are real reasons to respect the Justice and his legacy too.

JUburton wrote:Feel like you have to be somewhat full of yourself to be a supreme court justice. And RBG certainly should have retired in 2014. Same age as Kennedy is now.

pacino wrote:Obama should've done a recess appointment because the Senate refused to act on his nomination.

sometimes he was a real wuss. they'd have cried 'norms!!!' but norms were already dead by then. now they've been shot about 15 times by Trump and his GOP

JUburton wrote:

pacino wrote:Obama should've done a recess appointment because the Senate refused to act on his nomination.

sometimes he was a real wuss. they'd have cried 'norms!!!' but norms were already dead by then. now they've been shot about 15 times by Trump and his GOP

I'm fairly sure that McConnell held pro forma sessions to ensure a recess appointment couldn't happen.

Doll Is Mine wrote:jh is what Paul Ryan is in the Trump era.

Phred wrote:

JUburton wrote:

pacino wrote:Obama should've done a recess appointment because the Senate refused to act on his nomination.

sometimes he was a real wuss. they'd have cried 'norms!!!' but norms were already dead by then. now they've been shot about 15 times by Trump and his GOP

I'm fairly sure that McConnell held pro forma sessions to ensure a recess appointment couldn't happen.

Also, I'm pretty sure that everybody thought that Hilary was going to win.