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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 09:21:36

slugsrbad wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:So there are 4 cases left:

Florida v. Georgia (original jurisdiction case) a dispute about water use

Janus v. AFSCME - Union case

NIFLA v. Becerra - involves First Amendment and abortion

Trump v. Hawaii - Travel ban

Pretty hefty case load left


Just to be wrong, I think there will be 2 today and 2 tomorrow. The water use case and Janus today, NIFLA and travel ban tomorrow. Not a great end of the year for liberals with these court decisions.

At least the Wisconsin gerrymandering case wasn't dismissed out right, but the Texas gerrymandering case was a bit deflating.

it won't be a great 20 years for liberals with court decisions
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Jun 26, 2018 09:27:04

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:So there are 4 cases left:

Florida v. Georgia (original jurisdiction case) a dispute about water use

Janus v. AFSCME - Union case

NIFLA v. Becerra - involves First Amendment and abortion

Trump v. Hawaii - Travel ban

Pretty hefty case load left


Just to be wrong, I think there will be 2 today and 2 tomorrow. The water use case and Janus today, NIFLA and travel ban tomorrow. Not a great end of the year for liberals with these court decisions.

At least the Wisconsin gerrymandering case wasn't dismissed out right, but the Texas gerrymandering case was a bit deflating.

it won't be a great 20 years for the USA with court decisions

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 09:36:32

why is mass incarceration increasing in the suburbs? probably because of DAs like the one in Lancaster Co:
Although the rate of major crime was down 32 percent in the county from 2006-15, “I don’t feel like our crimes our down,” he said. The number of cases he’s filed increased 26 percent in the past decade.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 09:58:53

If Janus is the first case today, that is the expected bad news (based on my predictions of Florida/Georgia and Janus)
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 09:59:36

almost hope it's first just so i can go get coffee
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:02:38

NIFLA was first by Thomas hm..
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:02:57

Maybe i had the right duo/wrong days and the Hawaii v Trump case will be today
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:07:12

do they usually read the dissents???
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:09:02

pacino wrote:do they usually read the dissents???


I believe it depends on how strongly the dissenter feels on the particular issue. For example, Breyer read from his dissent in Ohio v. AMEX yesterday because he was an antitrust professor so his interest was strong.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:13:50

I hope mitch mcconnell spontaneously combusts.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:14:18

JUburton wrote:I hope mitch mcconnell spontaneously combusts.


what he do this time, or just a general reaffirmation of your feelings towards the turtle?

Edit: Gorsuch I'm assuming now that my brain has caught up to my fingers
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:15:30

JUburton wrote:I hope mitch mcconnell spontaneously combusts.

so much for the tolerant left
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:15:54

Hawaii v. Trump was last, it was reverse and remanded... super excited for the Trump victory tweets.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:16:00

ughhhhhhhhh


"we all know it's a muslim ban but he added North Korea and winked at us!"
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CFP » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:19:04

A great day for our Dear Leader

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:19:26

pacino wrote:ughhhhhhhhh


"we all know it's a muslim ban but he added North Korea and winked at us!"


I didn't read the opinion, not sure if I will since it's long, but I wonder if they addressed the tweet at length.. could go a long way when determining outcomes of other cases like tariffs where his tweets betray his actual authority
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:19:26

he made the Courts great again
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:03:55

slugsrbad wrote:
JUburton wrote:I hope mitch mcconnell spontaneously combusts.


what he do this time, or just a general reaffirmation of your feelings towards the turtle?

Edit: Gorsuch I'm assuming now that my brain has caught up to my fingers
ding ding ding.

His epitaph should just read 'joined by Gorsuch, N.'

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby TomatoPie » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:13:13

Given that the list was narrowed to countries that Obama had designated "most dangerous," this ruling isn't an outrage.

Every sentient being knows it began with Trump's bigotry, but the final result is defensible.

I would have preferred to see it fail, just to administer a slapdown to Agent Orange. But on the outrage scale where caged babies is a 10, this is about a 3.

The next president is going to be very busy undoing Trump's damage.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:26:45

are they, though? Depending on who it is, how they get elected, and how we react to decisions like these, things get cemented. the collective consciousness of our nation likes to move on and forget. stuff like this may get put by the wayside if margins are tight for fear of being pegged as divisive. perhaps there won't be prosecutions if people in this administration broke the law, for fear of being accused to being partisan or anti-democratic (where I actually think the most democratic thing would be holding people to those principles).

i don't know, but we can't take it as a guarantee that the next presidency and Congress is going to actually undo everything.
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