Woody wrote:

FTN wrote:

Pelfrey may yet turn into Roy Halladay. At the age of 25 Halladay had yet to do anything in MLB. At the age of 24 Pelfrey won 13 games and posted a sub 4.0 ERA

One of the greatest things Ive ever read.

Breathtaking, really.

jerseyhoya wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:That's whats really funny, not the guys who think that Toronto will give up Halladay for Pelfrey and junk but the guys who are all like "No No, we can't give up Big Pelf! We're so much better off with him than Halladay!"

There are people here who don't seem to want to part with Happ for Halladay

FTN wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:That's whats really funny, not the guys who think that Toronto will give up Halladay for Pelfrey and junk but the guys who are all like "No No, we can't give up Big Pelf! We're so much better off with him than Halladay!"

There are people here who don't seem to want to part with Happ for Halladay

I think its people who dont want to trade Happ + 3 elite prospects.

Mets fans honestly think Big Pelf plus some A ball prospect is too much. Big difference

stevelxa476 wrote:

Woody wrote:

FTN wrote:

Pelfrey may yet turn into Roy Halladay. At the age of 25 Halladay had yet to do anything in MLB. At the age of 24 Pelfrey won 13 games and posted a sub 4.0 ERA

One of the greatest things Ive ever read.

Breathtaking, really.

At the age of 25 I hadn't done anything in MLB either. There is hope for me too!

A source told the Boston Globe that the Jays won't allow teams a window to negotiate an extension with Roy Halladay if a deal is struck.
It's been assumed all along that they wouldn't. Halladay, who had no-trade protection, said he thinks it's essentially 50-50 whether he'll be dealt. He reportedly has not made a list of teams to which he'd accept a deal, though he did tell ESPN radio Philadelphia on Monday that the Phillies "fit the bill" of the team he'd consider.

ek wrote:here's that info Randy Miller brought up yesterday

What's unknown is whether or not signing Martinez would prevent the Phillies from exploring trade talks for Toronto Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay, who will start for the American League in tonight's All-Star Game.
Since Halladay was put on the block last week, there's been a lot of talk about whether the Phillies would be willing to package Double-A pitcher Kyle Drabek and three or four other top prospects to lure Halladay. Management, however, might not be able to get to that point - because, according to a team source, Halladay's contract is an issue.
The Phillies probably could take on the $15.75 million Halladay will make in 2010 - the final year of his three-year, $40 million deal - because injured No. 2 starter Brett Myers will be a free agent after the season and isn't expected to be re-signed.

But, believe it or not, paying Halladay $4.75 million for the final two months of his 2009 contract ($14.25 million) could be a stumbling block because the Phillies' payroll already has surpassed $130 million, a franchise record.
The Phillies, desperate for a right-handed bat to come off the bench, were in the running for infielder Mark DeRosa before he was traded from Cleveland to St. Louis on June 27.
The team source said if DeRosa had been traded to the Phillies, the club wouldn't be able to afford adding a starting pitcher, too, because it would be paying DeRosa $2.75 million, half of his 2009 contract.
A week later, the Phillies tried and failed again to land a right-handed bat when outfielder Scott Hairston was traded from San Diego to Oakland, the team source said.

ek wrote:here's that info Randy Miller brought up yesterday

What's unknown is whether or not signing Martinez would prevent the Phillies from exploring trade talks for Toronto Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay, who will start for the American League in tonight's All-Star Game.
Since Halladay was put on the block last week, there's been a lot of talk about whether the Phillies would be willing to package Double-A pitcher Kyle Drabek and three or four other top prospects to lure Halladay. Management, however, might not be able to get to that point - because, according to a team source, Halladay's contract is an issue.
The Phillies probably could take on the $15.75 million Halladay will make in 2010 - the final year of his three-year, $40 million deal - because injured No. 2 starter Brett Myers will be a free agent after the season and isn't expected to be re-signed.

But, believe it or not, paying Halladay $4.75 million for the final two months of his 2009 contract ($14.25 million) could be a stumbling block because the Phillies' payroll already has surpassed $130 million, a franchise record.
The Phillies, desperate for a right-handed bat to come off the bench, were in the running for infielder Mark DeRosa before he was traded from Cleveland to St. Louis on June 27.
The team source said if DeRosa had been traded to the Phillies, the club wouldn't be able to afford adding a starting pitcher, too, because it would be paying DeRosa $2.75 million, half of his 2009 contract.
A week later, the Phillies tried and failed again to land a right-handed bat when outfielder Scott Hairston was traded from San Diego to Oakland, the team source said.

The Red Tornado wrote:arent they also going to get some considerable money from insurance when Myers went down?

ek wrote:I'm fighting myself to not believe Miller in that interview. maybe because I don't want to believe it.

Woody wrote:The Phillies leaked this info so that they can make a deal with less attention on them and to throw other teams off the track. BOOK IT. HALLADAY IS A FILIS.