LOS ANGELES ANGELS 2-1

Jered Weaver, plus shortstop Brandon Wood, and a pitching prospect such as lefty Trevor Reckling or Jordan Walden. Will Halladay go to the coast? Angels also want either Scott Downs or Brandon League and could expand the deal.

MILWAUKEE BREWERS 5-2

Ex-Jay Dave Bush is injured, lefty Manny Parra took a step back. They added CC Sabathia a year ago and co-GM Ryan Braun would approve. Prospects: Infielders Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel, catchers Angel Salome and Brett Lawrie.

NEW YORK YANKEES 3-1

Phil Hughes plus prospects, but the Yanks don't have a shortstop to give. Would Jays deal Halladay within the division? Jesse Barfield and Dale Murray are two Jays sent to N.Y. Not exactly Halladay.

BOSTON RED SOX 4-1

Dream situation for the Jays: A Yanks-Red Sox bidding war ensues and one of them overpays. Most recent Jay dealt to the Sox? Eric Hinske.

LOS ANGELES DODGERS 5-1

With a team payroll of $85 million US, savings on Manny Ramirez's suspension and the post-season ahead, he is affordable. They have lefty Clayton Kershaw plus minor-league prospects.

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 8-1

Defending champs have a need with Brett Myers out, but say they won't move anyone off the major-league roster or prospects Kyle Drabek or pitcher Jason Knapp. Are outfielders Dominic Brown or Michael Taylor enough?

CHICAGO CUBS 10-1

Ryan Dempster, a 17-game winner in 2008, fell climbing the dugout fence and is out for a month.

CHICAGO WHITE SOX 10-1

Kenny Williams is crying poor with attendance woes, but they went after Jake Peavy. Shortstop Gordon Beckham could be the key part of a package.

COLORADO ROCKIES 15-1

Would Halladay want to return to home? He grew up near Denver, but now lives in the Tampa area.

ALSO ELIGIBLES

Detroit Tigers 20-1, Texas Rangers 20-1, San Francisco Giants 25-1, New York Mets 100-1.

dajafi wrote:I have trouble seeing Milwaukee making a huge push and depleting their system for a second straight year. Though in a weird way I'd rather see them get him than anyone else other than the Phils. I just kind of like that team.

Bakestar wrote:

dajafi wrote:I have trouble seeing Milwaukee making a huge push and depleting their system for a second straight year. Though in a weird way I'd rather see them get him than anyone else other than the Phils. I just kind of like that team.

I kind of pull for them too, despite the Seligness.

Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun are pretty likeable.

Klaw, if Doc is to go the Phils who would the Jays demand? Would Drabek, Donald, Marson be enough?

Keith Law (1:03 PM)


Here we go! No, that's not enough. Not close for me.

Shawn (Philly)


It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?

Keith Law (1:04 PM)


Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

Shawn (Philly)

It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?
Keith Law (1:04 PM)

Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

FTN wrote:

Shawn (Philly)

It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?
Keith Law (1:04 PM)

Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

I don't think he's seen him in person since he overhauled his mechanics, but his points are fair. Drabek should not be completely untouchable, and I consider him our best prospect. But we should be talking him up as by far our most valuable commodity

FTN wrote:

Shawn (Philly)

It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?
Keith Law (1:04 PM)

Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

I don't think he's seen him in person since he overhauled his mechanics, but his points are fair. Drabek should not be completely untouchable, and I consider him our best prospect. But we should be talking him up as by far our most valuable commodity

Trent Steele wrote:

FTN wrote:

Shawn (Philly)

It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?
Keith Law (1:04 PM)

Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

I don't think he's seen him in person since he overhauled his mechanics, but his points are fair. Drabek should not be completely untouchable, and I consider him our best prospect. But we should be talking him up as by far our most valuable commodity

Drabek's not untouchable, and Law is simply a dick whether he's right or not. Amaro is doing exactly what he should be doing right now with his public comments (and, FWIW, I don't think Amaro ever said Drabek was untouchable; Cholly did). The problem with most of the "pundits" is that they have never had to negotiate a goddamn thing other than the price for a car or a house. They have no clue how the process works.

FTN wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:

FTN wrote:

Shawn (Philly)

It's been reported that the Phillies consider Kyle Drabek untouchable. If that's the case, is there any combination of prospects not including him that could entice the Jays to trade Halladay to the Phils?
Keith Law (1:04 PM)

Sticking with a theme - how stupid is that? Drabek isn't even good enough to be "untouchable" (great stuff, already blew out his elbow, fair delivery at best, makeup questions dating back to HS), but more to the point, you're talking about acquiring one of the top 5 starters in baseball - maybe the top starter in baseball - for a year and a half. You don't designate a AA pitcher as "untouchable" if you're serious about acquiring Doc.

I don't think he's seen him in person since he overhauled his mechanics, but his points are fair. Drabek should not be completely untouchable, and I consider him our best prospect. But we should be talking him up as by far our most valuable commodity

Drabek's not untouchable, and Law is simply a dick whether he's right or not. Amaro is doing exactly what he should be doing right now with his public comments (and, FWIW, I don't think Amaro ever said Drabek was untouchable; Cholly did). The problem with most of the "pundits" is that they have never had to negotiate a goddamn thing other than the price for a car or a house. They have no clue how the process works.

Well, since he did work in the front office for a MLB team, I think he has some understanding how the negotiating process works. Much moreso than any of us just throwing out a bunch of names

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