I'm sorry I had to spell it out

BigEd76 wrote:Wow, just saw this story and video. Stewart isn't racing today btw

These cars that were being driven aren't like your usual NASCAR vehicles. These ones have minimal to no braking, so they slide all over the place when they turn, and if this kid got too close, Tony wouldn't have been able to avoid him. The lighting on the track is also #$!&@, but I don't think it was a factor. Stewart is a total hothead and flips from nice to asshat in seconds, but I find it hard to believe that he would intentionally run over a 20-year old

I actually used to work at that track. It's been 20 years, since I worked there but it is a very dark track at night and the lighting is definitely poor at best. You have to understand that this is a small track that's been hosting local racing for 60-70 years. Some pretty nasty accidents have happened there over time.

You can see from the pictures on their website that it's a pretty low end track that hadn't changed much.

http://canandaiguamotorsportspark.com

Read that in the late 90s an off duty cop that worked there got hit and killed while walking on the track under yellow to an accident. The guy that hit him was his brother-in-law. yeesh.

For a non NASCAR fan, can someone explain why Stewart would race in an event like this? Is it used as some sort of warm-up? Just for fun?

Barry Jive wrote:I take fault for muddling homicide and murder but this is a homicide whether Stewart is actually guilty of anything or not

Basically the reason that I feel like this is likely to get some kind of formal investigation in NYS rather than "damn shame Cletus got hisself run over" ("Kentucky model")

CFP wrote:For a non NASCAR fan, can someone explain why Stewart would race in an event like this? Is it used as some sort of warm-up? Just for fun?

he just likes racing, and this is a more pure form of it. he's just having fun since the purse is probably nothing to him

holy shit i just watched.

that's murder, folks

heyeaglefn wrote:He's still planning to race tonight.

despicable person

pacino wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:He's still planning to race tonight.

despicable person

He opted not to race hours ago.

ReadingPhilly wrote:

pacino wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:He's still planning to race tonight.

despicable person

He opted not to race hours ago.

yeah but still

CFP wrote:For a non NASCAR fan, can someone explain why Stewart would race in an event like this? Is it used as some sort of warm-up? Just for fun?

It's crazy, it's like Shady playing a semi pro game on a Saturday on Chester High's field

guy on my status is acting like I've never seen this racing. uhm I've actually seen this very type of racing live. he went into his turn awfully early and slid out

It's hard to tell much of anything from that video.

That video doesn't make him look good for sure

Barry Jive wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Victims in accidents can share some of the blame.

It's a counterproductive line of thinking to start there and work backwards, but that's how most of these arguments start (not just here, everywhere). Saying someone was responsible for the death of another person is not the application of guilt

Hypothetically, what if the first guy had hit him? Is that guy responsible or is it an accident then?

ReadingPhilly wrote:Read that in the late 90s an off duty cop that worked there got hit and killed while walking on the track under yellow to an accident. The guy that hit him was his brother-in-law. yeesh.

Yeah...sometime in the late 80's a car went into the main grandstand. That was the last major upgrade I remember when they put in a second wall and fence to help with debris.

That comment on Deadspin (yeah, yeah, comments, so take it FWIW) sounds...not good.

WAS AT SPEEDWAY AND RIGHT NEAR TONY STEWARTS RACE HAULER.AFTER HE CAME IN HE HAD THE CREW CHAGE HIS RIGHT REAR TIRE .THEY ENDED UP PUTTING A LEFT ONE ON. COPS WERE TOLD ABOUT IT SO HOPEFULLY THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. HE ALSO HAD A GO PRO CAMERA ON HIS CAR HOPEFULLY THEY CONFISCATE THAT ALSO BEFORE THAT GETS DESTROYED. HEARD THE YOUNG DRIVER DIDN'T MAKE IT AND I HOPE IT'S NOT TRUE BUT THEY WOULDN'T BRING TONY OUT UNTIL ALL OTHER HAULERS WERE GONE .ALOT OF POLICE AROUND HIS HAULER ALONG WITH HIS PERSONEL SECURITY. HOPE IF THIS IS ALL TRUE WHAT HAPPENED ON THE TRACK THAT HE DOESN'T GET AWAY WITH IT. HE FINALLY LET HIS TEMPER GET THE BEST OF HIM........

If there was evidence tampering or a cover up...a lot of times, the penalty for the cover up is worse than the penalty for the incident itself.

its fucked up the race car driver murdered a man with his car.

No, we have to assume the driver who drives cars for a living had no idea what the car was going to do. I don't know shit about car racing, but everyone who seems to know anything about these types of cars said that when you accelerate them, the back end naturally kicks out. Stewart, as a person who has driven these cars professionally THOUSANDS OF TIMES, had to have known this. I doubt he tried to kill him, but maybe you shouldn't try to scare someone with a vehicle that can easily kill someone.

Calvin said that victims can share in the blame and that's fair enough. The victim paid with his life for being a macho idiot. Stewart should go to jail for a long time for his part.

unless the other part of it is that he tried to go left, and the back spun out, which is also possible