Nascar thread OT (nobody cares)

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:10:58

Barry Jive wrote:lmao feel like you've misread everything I've said in this thread

you've flipped flopped and fumbled over your own words for the better part of 24 hours

by **Barry Jive** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:16:16

you are a weirdo. Please don't talk to or about me anymore.

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:17:20

SK790 wrote:Everyone also says the back tires kick out when you accelerate. I'm saying one guy slowed down and missed him, the other sped up and hit him. I'm not sure if that's significant.

Cars can be funny sometimes. There are thousands of variables at-play every time you turn the ignition and take it out onto the highway.

The fact that he's a known hothead doesn't help his case.

Or it does help because despite being a known hothead, he's never killed anyone, an indication that he's grounded enough to know at which point to stop?

The dude who died was clearly an idiot, but we can't even really consider the stupidity of his action in this case.

Um, why not? Why does he not get held accountable or responsible for his own personal decisions?

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:29:49

What I find very interesting about this story has been the reporting of it. Deadspin ran a long-winded, constantly updated report overnight Saturday into Sunday. It had the video and the firsthand account as the lead-in. If you had watched the video without first reading the eyewitness account, which later turned out to be a friend of the victim, then you would have struggled to see anything at all aside from a hothead driver running out of his car into oncoming traffic at night. It's a great example of how one's perception can be completely altered or controlled before he or she even sees the evidence at-hand (e.g. see things that aren't really there or vice versa).

I have watched that video 4 times now and see nothing in it aside from a driver running into oncoming traffic. I have no idea if Tony had the intent of doing anything other than doing everything he could to put himself in a position to win (/Andy Reid) because that's what he has seemingly always done. If there was some underlying intent, then he most certainly deserves to have justice delivered to him by the State of New York. Otherwise, this is simply a tragic event that could have been avoided if a few things, small things at that, had transpired just a tad differently.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:50:26

It's weird cause a person hitting a person with a car/getting hit by a car probably isn't be an ideological issue, but four of the five people in the thread most plainly on the anti-Stewart side of things are some of the more consistent lefties on the board (Barry, SK, pacino, Youseff, with wwry's politics undisclosed).

by **td11** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 22:59:29

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by **Werthless** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 23:04:43

jerseyhoya wrote:It's weird cause a person hitting a person with a car/getting hit by a car probably isn't be an ideological issue, but four of the five people in the thread most plainly on the anti-Stewart side of things are some of the more consistent lefties on the board (Barry, SK, pacino, Youseff, with wwry's politics undisclosed).

Conservatives tend toward personal responsibility (ie. Ward put his life in danger), while liberals dislike the possibility of justice not being served. It's only surprising in the near uniformity.

by **Werthless** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 23:08:07

Barry Jive wrote:
The Savior wrote:i see a tragic event that would have been completely avoided if the deceased individual would have stayed in the car instead of running into the way of oncoming traffic.

A guy intentionally murdered him with a pile of speeding metal

This is probably the post that people disagree with, fyi, in case you are genuinely confused why people are criticizing your views in this thread.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 23:12:23

Werthless wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:It's weird cause a person hitting a person with a car/getting hit by a car probably isn't be an ideological issue, but four of the five people in the thread most plainly on the anti-Stewart side of things are some of the more consistent lefties on the board (Barry, SK, pacino, Youseff, with wwry's politics undisclosed).

Conservatives tend toward personal responsibility (ie. Ward put his life in danger), while liberals dislike the possibility of justice not being served. It's only surprising in the near uniformity.

But conservatives like the whole tough on crime stance, and there's personal responsibility involved in not intentionally hitting a guy with your car.

Maybe a weird coincidence or maybe they were the folks up late enough Saturday to take in the initial spin before seeing the vid as Savior suggested or as maybe a default assumption that a rich white guy is guilty or maybe a dislike of people associated with the southern dominated sport.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 23:41:21

I didn't think it was possible but this thread keeps getting weirder and weirder.

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:16:32

i am a communist

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:26:56

Unsurprising given your desire to see Tony Stewart in jail

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:30:34

well he did murder a young man with his vehicle.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:33:09

wwry wrote:well he did murder a young man with his vehicle.

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:38:56

he killed the boy.

by **The Dude** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:45:48

are you karn? saw a karn deleted post right before

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:48:29

no i am not karn and i would have liked to have read that deleted post.

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:49:43

lets take a moment to appreciate having the option to delete your own posts. what a goddamn innovative feature, its saved my ass numerous times.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 00:54:28

The Dude wrote:are you karn? saw a karn deleted post right before

This is a more interesting suggestion than mine of a cabal of leftists wanting to see Tony Stewart in jail because he is rich and white

by **wwry** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 01:09:41

i want him in jail because he murdered the boy with his car. i want him executed because he's rich and white.

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