2020 Flyers Offseason

Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Squire » Tue Oct 06, 2020 21:53:42

BigEd76 wrote:RW Tyson Foerster, ranked #29


Button had him #16. Big shot. Needs to work on skating apparently.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby BigEd76 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 21:54:49


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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby MFP » Tue Oct 06, 2020 22:18:36

CalvinBall wrote:
MFP wrote:
Anthony SanFilippo @AntSanPhilly
I know there's been a lot of buzz around the
@NHLFlyers and possible trading for Patrik Laine. Here's what I can say that I know:
1. There was legit conversation (more than tire-kicking).
2. Things cooled, b/c of price but aren't over.
3. Surprise names could be part of a deal.

As a follow-up on the last tweet...

This is by no means a statement of guarantee that a deal will happen.

But, I'm of the belief that if it does happen, it won't be for any names any of us (including me on
@SnowTheGoalie) have discussed.



Any of the names of us? What does that mean?

"It won't be for any names any of us have discussed." The parenthetical is at a bad spot. Basically saying that his guess is that if a Laine trade happens, the names that the Flyers give up won't be any that have been previously discussed as possibly going to Winnipeg.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby MFP » Tue Oct 06, 2020 22:27:08

From Pronman's write-up on the first round:
23. Philadelphia Flyers: Tyson Foerster, RW, Barrie-OHL
Jan. 18, 2002 | 6-foot-2 | 194 pounds

Foerster had a great season, scoring 36 goals and 80 points in 62 OHL games, generating a lot of shots as a driving force for Barrie even after Ryan Suzuki was traded. Foerster’s shot is the first thing scouts bring up. He has an absolute cannon. He can one-time from the circles and beat goalies clean, which is a highly desirable skill. Foerster is also a high-end passer who can find seams consistently, which combined with his shot, makes him very dangerous on the power play. The main issue with Foerster is his skating. His stride is awkward, he hunches over, it breaks down often and prevents him from being dangerous on entries. I debated between a 55 and a 60 for his puck skills. When you watch him in practice it’s clear he has tremendous hands, and in games you can see it come out, but he rarely executes, which may be due to a lack of quickness and not a lack of skill. I don’t see him as a physical player who will PK in the NHL, but he works on the ice and wins enough engagements.

NHL scout on Foerster: “He’s a very smart player with a world-class shot and a lot of skill, but it’s so hard to get past his skating. He’s behind the pace of the OHL.”

Pronman’s thoughts: Foerster is a player with some very exciting elements. He has a truly elite shot, he has great vision, and he can make skilled plays. He was a divisive player because of his skating stride. The Flyers follow a trend, after using a high pick on Bobby Brink, that they think they can find a way to work with a player with a ton of talent who needs to fix his skating. I think he plays and helps a power play. I don’t know if he plays at the top of the lineup without getting quicker.

https://theathletic.com/2089449/2020/10 ... -analysis/

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Squire » Wed Oct 07, 2020 08:16:05

I guess Foerster is an OK pick. Has a valuable elite skill in shooting. But given that we just got eliminated by the Islanders because they had a kid (Barzal) who skated circles around us its a little of an odd pick. Apparently Brink last year also needs skating work too. Hopefully Carter Hart is the great equalizer over the next 5-8 years but the Islanders, Rangers and Devils seem to be adding alot of high end talent in the last couple of drafts.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Grotewold » Wed Oct 07, 2020 08:35:09

Ranks pretty high in punchable face

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby SwingOnThis » Wed Oct 07, 2020 08:58:06

Drafting a hockey player that can't skate is like drafting a basketball player that can't shoot.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Wed Oct 07, 2020 09:05:05

A lot of 18 year olds can't shoot, you can learn to shoot and skate fortunately at that age. If he was 21 or 22 I'd be more worried but I am sure there is a lot of room for improvement.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Wed Oct 07, 2020 09:18:14

Looking at the athletic’s grade on all the forwards taken after him, all of them except one were noted as average skaters or worse. This guy has 2 elite skills. Sounds like a good pick based on the paragraph I read on each the 2 minutes of reading I did.
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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby CFP » Wed Oct 07, 2020 09:18:51

TYSON FOERSTER CAN'T SKATE /kelce

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby rolex » Wed Oct 07, 2020 09:20:48

heyeaglefn wrote:A lot of 18 year olds can't shoot, you can learn to shoot and skate fortunately at that age. If he was 21 or 22 I'd be more worried but I am sure there is a lot of room for improvement.

Many said the same thing about Oskar Lindblom when the Flyers drafted him. “Can’t skate.” “Won’t be able to keep up with the play of the game.” Ya da ya da ya da. How did Oskar work out? The Flyers have had good luck improving player’s skating, Strome aside even though he has improved. TF may have the best shot in the draft. If a player can skate like the wind but has no shot, he might as well join the ice capades. With the Flyers adding Brink and this guy, they’re getting some scoring ability down the road.
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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Oct 07, 2020 09:21:07

give me a skilled guy who is a weak skater as opposed to a good skater who isn't as skilled any day. did read the flyers, and presumably other teams, talked to his skating coach who told them foerster has improved quite a bit since the pandemic shut everything down and teams last got to scout him.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby MFP » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:43:57

ReadingPhilly wrote:give me a skilled guy who is a weak skater as opposed to a good skater who isn't as skilled any day. did read the flyers, and presumably other teams, talked to his skating coach who told them foerster has improved quite a bit since the pandemic shut everything down and teams last got to scout him.

Same. Lot of the analysis I saw last night said similar -- if a player's going to be weak on something, you'd almost prefer it be skating because that can often be fixed. And with going with Brink last year and now Foerster, the Flyers must feel confident that they have the right people in their system that can help with the skating issue.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Eem » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:11:11

I mean, it was the 23rd pick. You're probably not getting Mario Lemieux here. I like drafting someone with an elite skill
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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Augustus » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:11:22

They've always done well with player development. The Flyers are far and away the best run org in the city right now-scary thought.
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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:22:59

Augustus wrote:They've always done well with player development. The Flyers are far and away the best run org in the city right now-scary thought.

1 playoff series win in 10 years though, but it was this past season. They have a new GM and coach now though so hopefully it continues to be successful.

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby BigEd76 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 13:17:35

2nd = Swedish D Emil Andrae

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Squire » Wed Oct 07, 2020 15:13:00

Flyer trade up to the top of the 4th round (Gave up their 4th and 5th)

Pick: RW Zayde Wisdom, Kingston of the OHL, #54th ranked North American Skater according to CSS. McKenzie had him ranked #77 overall

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Napalm » Wed Oct 07, 2020 15:17:13

Best name ever

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Re: 2020 Flyers Offseason

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Wed Oct 07, 2020 15:18:24

That’ll look sweet on the back of a sweater
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