1 wrote:Is Joe gonna wear 2 or 3? Man, the more I think about this, the more I hate it.

Prob not 3

Curious to see how he handles this bullpen. He had it pretty good most years with the YankMes.

MoBettle wrote:

1 wrote:Is Joe gonna wear 2 or 3? Man, the more I think about this, the more I hate it.

Prob not 3

Depends on what Middleton wants

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after watching and reading a bunch of things, i'm beginning to think "grinder with a binder" was just a dumb thing a writer thought was clever sounding. he seems pretty cool

Signed off

Shore wrote:They finished 12 and 16 games ahead of us this year for reasons.

pythag wins and baserun wins stories just as bad if not worse. braves drop to 92 or 90 wins, but nats rise to 95 by each measure, and phils drop to 78 or 75.
this is why catching up might well require signing both cole and rendon. silver lining is that then team less likely to regress is the one for whom the impact of us getting rendon would be doubled to produce a swing of 10-12 wins.

I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him and am glad to have him aboard, but the more I think about it retrospectively, the more it does very much feel like WIP fired Kapler and that really blows.

His career managerial record is 200 games over .500

A really solid choice.

As for Kapler, Moz, I don’t think WIP fired him. I think Kapler fired Kapler. There was just nothing exceptional about the job he did. IMO he always just seemed a half beat behind the symphony he was supposed to be conducting.

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him and am glad to have him aboard, but the more I think about it retrospectively, the more it does very much feel like WIP fired Kapler and that really blows.

Read the Ahtletic article on Chris Young if you want to know why Kapler was fired.

JFLNYC wrote:A really solid choice.

As for Kapler, Moz, I don’t think WIP fired him. I think Kapler fired Kapler. There was just nothing exceptional about the job he did. IMO he always just seemed a half beat behind the symphony he was supposed to be conducting.

At the end of the day, yeah, it seems it was a tough enough decision that Harper or Realmuto or whomever could have saved him.

I still don't like the process and worry about the front office dynamic moving forward, but there's a decent chance it will all work out in terms of improving things in the dugout and maintaining the analytics progress.

Grotewold wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:A really solid choice.

As for Kapler, Moz, I don’t think WIP fired him. I think Kapler fired Kapler. There was just nothing exceptional about the job he did. IMO he always just seemed a half beat behind the symphony he was supposed to be conducting.

At the end of the day, yeah, it seems it was a tough enough decision that Harper or Realmuto or whomever could have saved him.

I still don't like the process and worry about the front office dynamic moving forward, but there's a decent chance it will all work out in terms of improving things in the dugout and maintaining the analytics progress.

Agreed. Both Kapler’s hiring and firing are a symptom of a larger problem.

Brantt wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him and am glad to have him aboard, but the more I think about it retrospectively, the more it does very much feel like WIP fired Kapler and that really blows.

Read the Ahtletic article on Chris Young if you want to know why Kapler was fired.

Don't have a subscription, what's the gist?

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him

Seems pretty clear from what I've read that they thought he was too intense and would struggle relating to their young players. And he didn't win the WS recently.

The Dude wrote:after watching and reading a bunch of things, i'm beginning to think "grinder with a binder" was just a dumb thing a writer thought was clever sounding. he seems pretty cool

after reading all the taeks, i kinda like this descriptor of him. It's not negative i dont think

Napalm wrote:

The Dude wrote:after watching and reading a bunch of things, i'm beginning to think "grinder with a binder" was just a dumb thing a writer thought was clever sounding. he seems pretty cool

after reading all the taeks, i kinda like this descriptor of him. It's not negative i dont think

People in recent history in which their binder was notable:

Andy Reid
Mitt Romney

Uncle Milty wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him

Seems pretty clear from what I've read that they thought he was too intense and would struggle relating to their young players. And he didn't win the WS recently.

Bowa approves

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him and am glad to have him aboard, but the more I think about it retrospectively, the more it does very much feel like WIP fired Kapler and that really blows.

Read the Ahtletic article on Chris Young if you want to know why Kapler was fired.

Don't have a subscription, what's the gist?

Essentially, Kapler apparently didn't get along well with Rick Kranitz, to the point where there were arguments in the clubhouse on more than one occasion in 2018. When other teams came sniffing around Chris Young last offseason wanting to interview Young, Kapler and Klentak used that to push Kranitz out so they could install Young as the pitching coach since his philosophies were more in line with what Kapler/Klentak wanted. This upset many of the pitchers, who had a very good rapport with Kranitz but not much of one at all with Young. In addition, they did it later than most coaching changes typically occur, leaving Kranitz scrambling for a position (obviously eventually got one with Atlanta). Then the pitching went in the tank this season. Bad look for both Kapler and Klentak.

MFP wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:I never quite understood why the Yankees fired him and am glad to have him aboard, but the more I think about it retrospectively, the more it does very much feel like WIP fired Kapler and that really blows.

Read the Ahtletic article on Chris Young if you want to know why Kapler was fired.

Don't have a subscription, what's the gist?

Essentially, Kapler apparently didn't get along well with Rick Kranitz, to the point where there were arguments in the clubhouse on more than one occasion in 2018. When other teams came sniffing around Chris Young last offseason wanting to interview Young, Kapler and Klentak used that to push Kranitz out so they could install Young as the pitching coach since his philosophies were more in line with what Kapler/Klentak wanted. This upset many of the pitchers, who had a very good rapport with Kranitz but not much of one at all with Young. In addition, they did it later than most coaching changes typically occur, leaving Kranitz scrambling for a position (obviously eventually got one with Atlanta). Then the pitching went in the tank this season. Bad look for both Kapler and Klentak.

And today's article from Gelb indicates Kapler was all over the place.