joe girardi is a phillies manager

Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 20:59:27

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby azrider » Wed Oct 30, 2019 21:00:26

that man has large hands

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Slowhand » Wed Oct 30, 2019 21:06:25

azrider wrote:that man has large hands


Hands like catcher’s mitts!
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby stevemc » Thu Oct 31, 2019 07:52:54

Was at the Sixers game last night - he received a huge ovation on the jumbotron (in case that didn't make the telecast)

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:31:25

Man, Joe got old. Sizzlers are a right of passage these days.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Phred » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:13:08

BigEd76 wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Girardi will be on Missanelli's show at 3:30


here's the 20-minute interview

TLDR (and skipping the food/small talk stuff):

-- why he picked the Phils: talented team getting McCutchen back and the bullpen won't be so ridiculously hurt, also liked the prospects that were on the USA team (Bohm, Howard, Seabold)
-- has heard the stuff from media about being too intense and serious but he actually likes to joke and listen to classic rock and country music
-- takes suggestions from coaches, trainers and front office about the lineup but he ultimately decides the order, not Klentak
-- "I don't get caught up in launch angle" ... it's how you get the ball in the air that's important, wants swings that stay in the pitch path longer
-- not a "work the count" guy ... his approach to hitting is "look for your pitch and do damage" like Houston does
-- hasn't broken down Rhys' swing yet but will work with the new hitting coach to get him back on track
-- on those lazy Latinos, says players have "adult tantrums" and they need to learn to control their emotions and be professional. Says benching players early in a game could have consequences later on, so the time has to be right for it. Would rather have a player get himself under control in the dugout and use benchings for blatant things
-- does not have a facial hair policy. Says Loria in Miami was behind the Marlins' one
-- working on getting the pitching coach under contract first then they'll concentrate on hitting coach later this week. Discussed Bichette but says a few names have been brought up internally


Was really hoping that he would implement a "must have a porn-stache" policy. Couldn't do that though as Kingery probably wouldn't be able to comply.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Oct 31, 2019 13:36:49

Slowhand wrote:
azrider wrote:that man has large hands


Hands like catcher’s mitts!


:-D
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby philliesphhan » Thu Oct 31, 2019 14:58:55

Phred wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Girardi will be on Missanelli's show at 3:30


here's the 20-minute interview

TLDR (and skipping the food/small talk stuff):

-- why he picked the Phils: talented team getting McCutchen back and the bullpen won't be so ridiculously hurt, also liked the prospects that were on the USA team (Bohm, Howard, Seabold)
-- has heard the stuff from media about being too intense and serious but he actually likes to joke and listen to classic rock and country music
-- takes suggestions from coaches, trainers and front office about the lineup but he ultimately decides the order, not Klentak
-- "I don't get caught up in launch angle" ... it's how you get the ball in the air that's important, wants swings that stay in the pitch path longer
-- not a "work the count" guy ... his approach to hitting is "look for your pitch and do damage" like Houston does
-- hasn't broken down Rhys' swing yet but will work with the new hitting coach to get him back on track
-- on those lazy Latinos, says players have "adult tantrums" and they need to learn to control their emotions and be professional. Says benching players early in a game could have consequences later on, so the time has to be right for it. Would rather have a player get himself under control in the dugout and use benchings for blatant things
-- does not have a facial hair policy. Says Loria in Miami was behind the Marlins' one
-- working on getting the pitching coach under contract first then they'll concentrate on hitting coach later this week. Discussed Bichette but says a few names have been brought up internally


Was really hoping that he would implement a "must have a porn-stache" policy. Couldn't do that though as Kingery probably wouldn't be able to comply.


When I was in my car on Tuesday I think, I turned it on when they seemed to be in the middle of a discussion about whether he would do this. I think "Mikey" gave away the fact that he can't grow a beard since he was all for it.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Swiggers » Sun Nov 10, 2019 01:33:32

Phred wrote:his approach to hitting is "look for your pitch and do damage" like Houston does


That's pretty much Charlie's approach too, yes?
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby phillychuck » Sun Nov 10, 2019 09:16:44

Swiggers wrote:
Phred wrote:his approach to hitting is "look for your pitch and do damage" like Houston does


That's pretty much Charlie's approach too, yes?


It's a good approach as long as you don't get over-eager a lot and swing at pitches that look like your pitch but end up breaking out of the zone. You need some patience to actually get your pitch. See Kingery in the second half of the year.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby heyeaglefn » Sun Nov 10, 2019 09:21:50

phillychuck wrote:
Swiggers wrote:
Phred wrote:his approach to hitting is "look for your pitch and do damage" like Houston does


That's pretty much Charlie's approach too, yes?


It's a good approach as long as you don't get over-eager a lot and swing at pitches that look like your pitch but end up breaking out of the zone. You need some patience to actually get your pitch. See Kingery in the second half of the year.

What good hitting approach doesn't require that?

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby phillychuck » Sun Nov 10, 2019 09:29:17

True. But a good hitting coach/manager finds ways to help hitters with getting their pitch and patience when they don't. I think.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Shore » Mon Nov 11, 2019 15:47:54

The "like Houston does" part... didn't they lead the league in walks drawn?

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Nov 11, 2019 18:16:50

Shore wrote:The "like Houston does" part... didn't they lead the league in walks drawn?


They were, though 24th in pitches per plate appearance. (Phils were T7th in PPA, 13th in walks in mlb).

I think the key is having really good hitters.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Bucky » Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:02:30

:idea:

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby azrider » Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:16:26

a hitting coach or pitching coach isn't going to reinvent the game. you hope they can turn around a player or two with a tweak mechanically or in approach, recognize and correct bad habits and simply keep them doing what has made them successful in their path to the major leagues. you can have a philosophy but you need to find the players that fit it or believe to be easily amenable to it, this even goes with minor league guys too. scouting, development and coaching all pretty much has to be on the same page straight up through the organization and good at it. that's been the astros way.

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:25:42

I think the interpersonal skills are a huge part for hitting and pitching coaches.
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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby azrider » Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:39:34

Uncle Milty wrote:I think the interpersonal skills are a huge part for hitting and pitching coaches.


probably the number one skill. convincing these guys to do something you obviously can't is quite the task.

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Re: joe girardi is a phillies manager

Postby Bill McNeal » Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:40:08

Uncle Milty wrote:I think the interpersonal skills are a huge part for hitting and pitching coaches.


Agree completely. Cholly had a good approach and was successful throughout his coaching career, but he was able to couple that with his personality. He’s a marble mouthed old white dude but his squads liked him because he earned their trust and connected with them.
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