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by **jemagee** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:39:43

The Red Tornado wrote:
pacino wrote:it was settled before it even went to court. Bodog sued him even though he stated that he would give half AFTER taxes. If he gave before taxes he'd end up with basically nothing.

Not sued BY bodog.

Long story short-

Bodog pays Jamie the buyin if he can get X amount of celebs to wear bodog clothing during the event. Jamie enlists help of casual acquaintence, tells him bodgog will pay his entry as well. Casual acquaintence gets a few people and bodog doesnt have any more entries to give so Jamie promises him that if he gets into the money they will split the winnings. Jamie wins main event and casual acquaintence either gets impatient with Jamie's slow response or Jamie completely ignores the guy as is stiffing him- law suit gets filed and eventually gets settled.

Well...he's no steve danneman

by **Alt** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:51:48

pacino wrote:I never understood that rule about announcing your hand. You can lie...but you can't tell the truth. How the hell will they know if they fold? Do you have to show to prove you were lying? I don't get it. You should be allowed to say your hand.

I'm pretty sure that rule is designed to prevent collusion and cheating and I think its a good one (although it doesn't make much sense why you can still lie about it). It's not fair to other players when you explicitly collude like Gold did in the main event. I'm sure in major tournaments it happens quite often with pros who have pieces of each other, but at least they make it implicit and don't talk about it. If you are allowed to announce your hand, it makes it MUCH easier to chip dump or collude with a partner.

by **The Red Tornado** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 13:09:30

Ive been reading the NVG forum on 2+2 today alot and boy are there some degenerates in the poker world, what a shock. :roll:

by **steven snell** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 15:24:21

Any word on whether Rick Tocchet is still in.

by **Alt** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 15:35:42

The Red Tornado wrote:Ive been reading the NVG forum on 2+2 today alot and boy are there some degenerates in the poker world, what a shock. :roll:

TRT, what does NVG stand for? Is it -EV Gambling?

by **seke2** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 16:19:40

The Red Tornado wrote:I wonder if ESPN's desire to televise races and fun suck outs is the reason behind the new structure?

the structure up to this point is essentially identical to what it was last year. they removed like 1 level, but i don't think the players will reach that level for quite a while.

my guess is that the increased awareness of concepts like stealing and restealing is what is leading to a faster pace of bustouts than in past years when many players were just rock tight nits. honestly, this is pretty much exactly what was experienced last year during these stages of the tournament. you can expect play to tighten up a lot once the players approach the money bubble tomorrow and then as they reach any significant payout increase bubble.

by **seke2** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 16:20:47

Alt wrote:
The Red Tornado wrote:Ive been reading the NVG forum on 2+2 today alot and boy are there some degenerates in the poker world, what a shock. :roll:

TRT, what does NVG stand for? Is it -EV Gambling?

News Views and Gossip

by **Alt** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 16:52:45

seke2 wrote:
Alt wrote:
The Red Tornado wrote:Ive been reading the NVG forum on 2+2 today alot and boy are there some degenerates in the poker world, what a shock. :roll:

TRT, what does NVG stand for? Is it -EV Gambling?

News Views and Gossip

Thanks Seke....used to lurk there a couple years ago until my employer blocked it. Twas a sad day.

by **R.J. MacReady** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 21:52:21

Lousy night and eliminated early in both games I played:

Game 1
Blinds at 50/100, Guy to my left raises to 400 preflop and I'm BB. Everybody else folds and I go all in 1700 with KK. He calls me with A5o. He ends up winning with a straight.

Game 2
First hand I have A5 and hit the flush on the flop of J62. Player 1 raises to 150, Player 2 calls, and I call knowing I'm set. Turn is a 8 and Player 1 goes all in. Player 2 folds and I call. Player one has two pair with 62. 2 comes on the last card and he has a full house. I lose with the Ace Flush.

Not complaining as that's how poker goes sometimes but I don't think I'll be playing anymore tonight

by **Woody** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 21:56:14

by **Irish Car Bomb** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 23:36:58

Rick Tocchet Pulls a Vinnie Vinh
Yes, it's unfortunate that Vinh's condition has become a catchphrase, but I think it's one that is here to stay. While Vinnie Vinh himself showed up today (but busted early with a short stack), Rick Tocchet never returned for his Day Two. He survived Day 1c with 17,100 in chips, and his stack made it to the second level without him before succumbing to the blinds. Why didn't Tocchet ever return to play? There's a theory that he was getting too much pressure for his legal troubles with gambling and conspiracy charges. While it's completely legal for him (or anyone over the age of 21) to play in the World Series of Poker, it may have been bad for him in other ways. Regardless of the reason, Tocchet never returned on Day 2b, and his chips are now gone.

by **seke2** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:09:58

Days 2A and 2B at the WSOP are done. Today will be the first day the entire remaining field plays as 1, as they will do for the rest of the tournament.

Approximately 810 players remain and I believe the top ~620 or so will be in the money, so with action starting at 3 PM EST so I'd expect the money bubble to burst around 7 PM EST today, after which time there will be a very quick rash of bustouts, and today's play will conclude with somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-300 players remaining.

Lots of big name pros and celebs were eliminated on Day 2, but a fair number still remain. Some pros/celebs to follow still:

Gus Hansen @ 530,000
Huck Seed @ 280,500
Tedd Forrest @ 268,200
Carlos Mortensen @ 254,700
Daniel Alaei @ 205,800
Chip Jett @ 201,400
Robert Varkonyi @ 182,700
Jason Lester @ 166,300
Chris Ferguson @ 160,900
Tobey Maguire @ 152,900
John Spadavecchia @ 151,500
Pamela Brunson @ 125,000
Scotty Nguyen @ 107,200
Humberto Brenes @ 94,700
Todd Brunson @ 90,600
Gavin Smith @ 87,700

Some internet guys you should also follow:
Rain Khan @ 580k
Sorel Mizzi @ 410k
Carl Olson @ 400k
George Dunst @ 292k
Darrell Dicken @ 250k

I'll add others when I can find some reliable chip counts somewhere.

by **jemagee** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:11:48

Pamela Brunson - I've never heard of her - is she daughter or wife?

by **seke2** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:19:37

jemagee wrote:Pamela Brunson - I've never heard of her - is she daughter or wife?

Doyle's grandaughter

by **The Red Tornado** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:32:30

seke2 wrote:Huck Seed @ 280,500
Carlos Mortensen @ 254,700
Robert Varkonyi @ 182,700
Chris Ferguson @ 160,900

Are these the only previous champions left?

by **philliesr98** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:41:03

I think it's just about time for a Jesus Ferguson Main Event Final Table, and once he makes it there, it's going to be hard for him to lose..... My money is on Chris....

by **The Red Tornado** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:44:17

Gus Hansen with alot of chips is a dangerous thing, still too early to say, but he's definitely a force to get there.

by **Woody** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:45:18

Approximately how many players left at this point?

by **The Red Tornado** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:47:36

seke2 wrote:Approximately 810 players remain

by **The Red Tornado** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:48:49

Reminders for live tourneys:

July 21st Pennsburg PA 6pm

August 4th at my place in North Wales 6PM

Woody will be attending one of these.... (or else)

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