The crazy thing is that I did put him on As and 8s on the turn which is why I bet the $1,500. I figured I was giving him 2.5:1 at most on a 12:1 shot. As Seke points out, he had no business calling that bet.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
The two of them get mixed up in a pot, for which I don't recall the preflop or flop action. On the turn, it's heads up, and the board reads (Q84)3 with two clubs. Seat 6 checks, seat 7 bets all in for one big bet. Seat 6 looks like he has a hopeless hand but since it only costs him one more bet to get to showdown, he sighs and tosses his chips into the pot with a call. The dealer puts out the harmless river card (a red 6, so there's no flush and the nuts is basically a set of Queens since 75 or 25 wouldn't really ever be in either hand given their play, etc.).
Now the guys just sort of look at each other.
Seat 7: "What do you have?"
Seat 6: "I called you."
Seat 7: "You're first to act."
Seat 6: "No, you bet all in, I called. You show first."
Seat 7: "That was on the turn. On the river, you're first to act."
Seat 6: "I couldn't bet the river! You're all in!"
The dealer just sits there dumbfaced throughout all this not prompting any of them. The rest of us are like, uh... wtf is going on, someone show your hand so we can move on. Finally, seat 4 says "OK, dealer I want to see both hands, there. Now they both have to show, so let's go."
The dealer asks them to show. They continue to argue. Seat 7 calls the floorman over.
The floorman listens to the story and changes his ruling back and forth. First he rules seat 6 should show first since he's in first position. But then he buys the all-in-on-the-turn argument and says seat 7 should show. After much more debate, he finally says seat 6 has to show first. Now me and the rest of the table are just disgusted that these two ****ing babies are eating up 15 minutes of game time over not wanting to show their hands first.
Seat 6 gets so annoyed at the floorman's bad (imo, and most other people's) decision and flips his cards up just to move things along. He has 22 and can barely beat the board.
Seat 7 sits there and looks at the hand. Then he slowly collects his cards together so the two of them are stuck together like one, and flips them face forward in front of him on the felt. All we see is the top card, which is a Q. Seat 6 goes "What's the other one?" (as if it matters, but it still needs to be shown). Seat 7 becomes a rock and won't move the Q aside to see the bottom card. Eventually the dealer reaches over and slides the Q away to reveal... another Queen.
Sickest. Slowroll. Ever. I don't think I've ever seen a floorman get called during a slowroll. It was so gross that I somehow found sympathy for the guy who just an hour ago was gigantic douche to me.
Harry Monroe wrote:Stupid question:
What does it matter who flips first if neither person can raise?
traderdave wrote:Good stuff, guys; thanks. I don't know these guys as well as my hometown crew. When I'm playing against somebody I'm seeing for the first time, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of ability. Obviously, I won't make the same mistake with that guy again.
The Red Tornado wrote:Sick B&M storyThe two of them get mixed up in a pot, for which I don't recall the preflop or flop action. On the turn, it's heads up, and the board reads (Q84)3 with two clubs. Seat 6 checks, seat 7 bets all in for one big bet. Seat 6 looks like he has a hopeless hand but since it only costs him one more bet to get to showdown, he sighs and tosses his chips into the pot with a call. The dealer puts out the harmless river card (a red 6, so there's no flush and the nuts is basically a set of Queens since 75 or 25 wouldn't really ever be in either hand given their play, etc.).
Now the guys just sort of look at each other.
Seat 7: "What do you have?"
Seat 6: "I called you."
Seat 7: "You're first to act."
Seat 6: "No, you bet all in, I called. You show first."
Seat 7: "That was on the turn. On the river, you're first to act."
Seat 6: "I couldn't bet the river! You're all in!"
The dealer just sits there dumbfaced throughout all this not prompting any of them. The rest of us are like, uh... wtf is going on, someone show your hand so we can move on. Finally, seat 4 says "OK, dealer I want to see both hands, there. Now they both have to show, so let's go."
The dealer asks them to show. They continue to argue. Seat 7 calls the floorman over.
The floorman listens to the story and changes his ruling back and forth. First he rules seat 6 should show first since he's in first position. But then he buys the all-in-on-the-turn argument and says seat 7 should show. After much more debate, he finally says seat 6 has to show first. Now me and the rest of the table are just disgusted that these two ****ing babies are eating up 15 minutes of game time over not wanting to show their hands first.
Seat 6 gets so annoyed at the floorman's bad (imo, and most other people's) decision and flips his cards up just to move things along. He has 22 and can barely beat the board.
Seat 7 sits there and looks at the hand. Then he slowly collects his cards together so the two of them are stuck together like one, and flips them face forward in front of him on the felt. All we see is the top card, which is a Q. Seat 6 goes "What's the other one?" (as if it matters, but it still needs to be shown). Seat 7 becomes a rock and won't move the Q aside to see the bottom card. Eventually the dealer reaches over and slides the Q away to reveal... another Queen.
Sickest. Slowroll. Ever. I don't think I've ever seen a floorman get called during a slowroll. It was so gross that I somehow found sympathy for the guy who just an hour ago was gigantic douche to me.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Werthless wrote:Played poker Friday night. Took second in a tournament to a player with the same name as me. Felt good man.
Yeah, I am pretty sure that ever folding KK at low stakes is -EV. But in this situation at the bubble of the WSOP ME final table and someone 4-betting for 80ish BB...gotta think if any hand is AA, it's that.PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Idk man it’s tough when people are stupid with AK or someone fell in love with QQ