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Postby seke2 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 13:56:31

lol martingaleaments
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Postby pacino » Fri Jan 18, 2008 13:57:22

The crazy thing is that I did put him on As and 8s on the turn which is why I bet the $1,500. I figured I was giving him 2.5:1 at most on a 12:1 shot. As Seke points out, he had no business calling that bet.

The better the player, the more likely they'll follow things like that. However, some people 'just feel' like calling, others call because they always think they'll hit, others call because they folded the last hand, and other call because they see a lot of a certain suit coming out all the time. Make sure to see who you are betting before you just put out a smart bet making it 3:1 to call or something. Many casual players(which is what we all are, really)just call to call, so make sure you make it really unprofitable for them. Sometimes I even overbet the pot if they just won't freaking fold.
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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Jan 18, 2008 13:58:54

knowing your player is great advice- making a great poker move or bluff is useless and dumb when your opponent won't "understand" your move.
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Postby traderdave » Fri Jan 18, 2008 14:27:54

Good stuff, guys; thanks. I don't know these guys as well as my hometown crew. When I'm playing against somebody I'm seeing for the first time, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of ability. Obviously, I won't make the same mistake with that guy again.

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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Jan 18, 2008 15:40:29

Sick B&M story


The two of them get mixed up in a pot, for which I don't recall the preflop or flop action. On the turn, it's heads up, and the board reads (Q84)3 with two clubs. Seat 6 checks, seat 7 bets all in for one big bet. Seat 6 looks like he has a hopeless hand but since it only costs him one more bet to get to showdown, he sighs and tosses his chips into the pot with a call. The dealer puts out the harmless river card (a red 6, so there's no flush and the nuts is basically a set of Queens since 75 or 25 wouldn't really ever be in either hand given their play, etc.).

Now the guys just sort of look at each other.

Seat 7: "What do you have?"
Seat 6: "I called you."
Seat 7: "You're first to act."
Seat 6: "No, you bet all in, I called. You show first."
Seat 7: "That was on the turn. On the river, you're first to act."
Seat 6: "I couldn't bet the river! You're all in!"

The dealer just sits there dumbfaced throughout all this not prompting any of them. The rest of us are like, uh... wtf is going on, someone show your hand so we can move on. Finally, seat 4 says "OK, dealer I want to see both hands, there. Now they both have to show, so let's go."

The dealer asks them to show. They continue to argue. Seat 7 calls the floorman over.

The floorman listens to the story and changes his ruling back and forth. First he rules seat 6 should show first since he's in first position. But then he buys the all-in-on-the-turn argument and says seat 7 should show. After much more debate, he finally says seat 6 has to show first. Now me and the rest of the table are just disgusted that these two ****ing babies are eating up 15 minutes of game time over not wanting to show their hands first.

Seat 6 gets so annoyed at the floorman's bad (imo, and most other people's) decision and flips his cards up just to move things along. He has 22 and can barely beat the board.

Seat 7 sits there and looks at the hand. Then he slowly collects his cards together so the two of them are stuck together like one, and flips them face forward in front of him on the felt. All we see is the top card, which is a Q. Seat 6 goes "What's the other one?" (as if it matters, but it still needs to be shown). Seat 7 becomes a rock and won't move the Q aside to see the bottom card. Eventually the dealer reaches over and slides the Q away to reveal... another Queen.

Sickest. Slowroll. Ever. I don't think I've ever seen a floorman get called during a slowroll. It was so gross that I somehow found sympathy for the guy who just an hour ago was gigantic douche to me.
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Postby traderdave » Fri Jan 18, 2008 16:05:24

I've never played a cash game in a casino (only two tourneys) so I haven't been exposed to these kinds of pleasantries yet. I do recall two guys nearly coming to blows at my Vegas tourney (f-bombs left and right, etc.) before the floor manager stepped in and told them to shut up or get out. That story is classic though.

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Postby Bob Loblaw » Fri Jan 18, 2008 16:17:55

Stupid question:

What does it matter who flips first if neither person can raise?
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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Jan 18, 2008 16:20:04

Harry Monroe wrote:Stupid question:

What does it matter who flips first if neither person can raise?


some people think it's a huge advantage to not show cards, so they try to keep their cards secret if they dont have to show. It's a matter of good etiquette if you have the nuts to just show your hand and end it there and then. The fact that this guy didnt show the best hand until he made the other guy is beyond rude.
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Postby philliesr98 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 16:22:24

i would have chris fergusoned my pocket 2's directly into the side of his jugular if he flopped q's like that...
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Postby seke2 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 17:18:26

traderdave wrote:Good stuff, guys; thanks. I don't know these guys as well as my hometown crew. When I'm playing against somebody I'm seeing for the first time, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of ability. Obviously, I won't make the same mistake with that guy again.

That is a huge mistake. The average poker player is not good. Your default read should be to assume someone sucks until you see otherwise, honestly. What versions of sucks (calling station vs. overly aggressive vs. plain horrible in every way) is harder to say, but if you're assuming every player who you face is good until they prove otherwise, you're making a lot of bad reads.
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Postby Pedro Rosa » Fri Jan 18, 2008 18:19:32

The Red Tornado wrote:Sick B&M story


The two of them get mixed up in a pot, for which I don't recall the preflop or flop action. On the turn, it's heads up, and the board reads (Q84)3 with two clubs. Seat 6 checks, seat 7 bets all in for one big bet. Seat 6 looks like he has a hopeless hand but since it only costs him one more bet to get to showdown, he sighs and tosses his chips into the pot with a call. The dealer puts out the harmless river card (a red 6, so there's no flush and the nuts is basically a set of Queens since 75 or 25 wouldn't really ever be in either hand given their play, etc.).

Now the guys just sort of look at each other.

Seat 7: "What do you have?"
Seat 6: "I called you."
Seat 7: "You're first to act."
Seat 6: "No, you bet all in, I called. You show first."
Seat 7: "That was on the turn. On the river, you're first to act."
Seat 6: "I couldn't bet the river! You're all in!"

The dealer just sits there dumbfaced throughout all this not prompting any of them. The rest of us are like, uh... wtf is going on, someone show your hand so we can move on. Finally, seat 4 says "OK, dealer I want to see both hands, there. Now they both have to show, so let's go."

The dealer asks them to show. They continue to argue. Seat 7 calls the floorman over.

The floorman listens to the story and changes his ruling back and forth. First he rules seat 6 should show first since he's in first position. But then he buys the all-in-on-the-turn argument and says seat 7 should show. After much more debate, he finally says seat 6 has to show first. Now me and the rest of the table are just disgusted that these two ****ing babies are eating up 15 minutes of game time over not wanting to show their hands first.

Seat 6 gets so annoyed at the floorman's bad (imo, and most other people's) decision and flips his cards up just to move things along. He has 22 and can barely beat the board.

Seat 7 sits there and looks at the hand. Then he slowly collects his cards together so the two of them are stuck together like one, and flips them face forward in front of him on the felt. All we see is the top card, which is a Q. Seat 6 goes "What's the other one?" (as if it matters, but it still needs to be shown). Seat 7 becomes a rock and won't move the Q aside to see the bottom card. Eventually the dealer reaches over and slides the Q away to reveal... another Queen.

Sickest. Slowroll. Ever. I don't think I've ever seen a floorman get called during a slowroll. It was so gross that I somehow found sympathy for the guy who just an hour ago was gigantic douche to me.


I play w/ someone regularly who's constantly arguing over that...he always wants to see his opponents hand first no matter what...but it's more than tolerable since he always has a lot of cash and plays a loose/aggressive style...can't stand to be bluffed so he's always paying off big hands ...on the very rare occasion I do manage to steal a pot I always stop by the self serve station and show him the bluff, gentlemen a telemarketer does not call this much...sometimes I actually feel a little guilty....but sometimes I feel like a teenage girl on prom night(before the dance, not after) waiting for his call. Because that's the thing..he's always calling me.
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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Postby Bucky » Sat Feb 25, 2017 21:15:10

lynn gilmartin ftw

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 18:26:27

Daniel Negreanu got hairplugs

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby joe table » Mon Jun 18, 2018 19:02:46

Worked 4 LeBron

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby Werthless » Mon Jun 18, 2018 21:01:59

Played poker Friday night. Took second in a tournament to a player with the same name as me. Felt good man.

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Thu Jul 12, 2018 17:49:41

Insane hand that determined the final table for the 2018 WSOP Main Event. Also Hellmuth got his 15th bracelet.


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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby Bucky » Thu Jul 12, 2018 19:08:38

Werthless wrote:Played poker Friday night. Took second in a tournament to a player with the same name as me. Felt good man.


maybe it was really you who won and the imposter came in 2nd

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby JUburton » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:21:19

I might be a donk but I would snapfold KK in that position at the WSOP. Pretty sure I've correctly folded KK at like 25NL on PokerStars.

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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby PTOITWCFTPP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:36:06

Idk man it’s tough when people are stupid with AK or someone fell in love with QQ
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Re: Discuss Poker Here Thread(OT)

Unread postby JUburton » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:57:24

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Idk man it’s tough when people are stupid with AK or someone fell in love with QQ
Yeah, I am pretty sure that ever folding KK at low stakes is -EV. But in this situation at the bubble of the WSOP ME final table and someone 4-betting for 80ish BB...gotta think if any hand is AA, it's that.

Sidenote I really miss like 6-tabling online poker.

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