Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby WilliamC » Sun Aug 11, 2019 17:50:43

I can't believe Jimmy only made 3 AS teams. I did remember he didn't even make it in his MVP season. SOME(fewer than before the old voters started dying off) will use that against him. He is far from a lock but should get serious consideration for the HoF.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby philliesphhan » Sun Aug 11, 2019 18:30:49

mtcal wrote:kingery'd have a better shot at an all star game if he had a position to play.

my vote is for the one he's supposedly really good at.


My guess is that's exactly where he'll play in 2020 as Cesar is a free agent
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby wiivile » Sun Aug 11, 2019 18:34:01

philliesphhan wrote:
mtcal wrote:kingery'd have a better shot at an all star game if he had a position to play.

my vote is for the one he's supposedly really good at.


My guess is that's exactly where he'll play in 2020 as Cesar is a free agent


2021 but i think cesar is traded this offseason

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Rockinghorse » Sun Aug 11, 2019 22:42:12

I won't bump the Shadow thread but my quasi prediction of Kap fired after this trip has a shot of coming true

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby heyeaglefn » Sun Aug 11, 2019 22:48:40

Rockinghorse wrote:I won't bump the Shadow thread but my quasi prediction of Kap fired after this trip has a shot of coming true

They are two games out with tons of injuries, I don't see it happening. Klentak knows they don't have a very good team.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Rockinghorse » Sun Aug 11, 2019 22:50:03

Gotta shake it up while there's time

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby heyeaglefn » Sun Aug 11, 2019 22:52:42

Rockinghorse wrote:Gotta shake it up while there's time

30 seconds, MacGruber!

Seems a little knee jerk and really hope management is smarter than that. Get better players next year and make a change in the offseason depending how this season ends.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 22:56:41

If there's one positive, the Phils won't leave the Eastern timezone the rest of the season

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby philliesphhan » Sun Aug 11, 2019 23:04:56

heyeaglefn wrote:
Rockinghorse wrote:I won't bump the Shadow thread but my quasi prediction of Kap fired after this trip has a shot of coming true

They are two games out with tons of injuries, I don't see it happening. Klentak knows they don't have a very good team.


Yeah, I don't get what he's supposed to do. Shit pitching and an offense that just hits a bunch of singles or doesn't hit at all
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Slowhand » Sun Aug 11, 2019 23:34:09

ek wrote:looks like Arrieta might be done


Kinda figured this outing was the nail in the coffin.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Brantt » Mon Aug 12, 2019 09:35:04

Salisbury seemed to be hinting a big move could come today. The only 2 moves of impact would be firing Kapler or calling up Howard. The latter would seem to be a panic move and could stunt Howard's growth if he's not ready.

Firing Mallee or some other schlub coach will do nothing.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 12, 2019 09:36:39

Andrew Miller finally signing.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby thephan » Mon Aug 12, 2019 09:39:06

ek wrote:looks like Arrieta might be done


I think you post got stuck from May, but it is still relevant.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby CFP » Mon Aug 12, 2019 09:53:39

Brantt wrote:Salisbury seemed to be hinting a big move could come today. The only 2 moves of impact would be firing Kapler or calling up Howard. The latter would seem to be a panic move and could stunt Howard's growth if he's not ready.

Firing Mallee or some other schlub coach will do nothing.


He seemed to be guessing to me, which is weird. Was reminiscent of Reuben Frank guessing Le'Blanc was going to be traded a few weeks ago. I guess everyone has their odd moments, even the best reporters.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby MattFoley » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:22:06

This season has been a sharp reminder how much it's sucks for fans when their team doesn't meet expectations. The injuries are a legit reason for a lot of it, but it still sucks (to the point I'm losing interest).

The opposite, of course is how great it is when your team plays over it's head.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:26:51

Firing Kapler now makes no sense... unless the new manager is bringing along 5 new solid bullpen arms, three or four major league starting pitchers, Andrew McCutchen healed, Alec Bohm ready, a permanent position for Scott Kingery, a good hitting coach, and more time to make up the games they are back in the race... fire him after the last game
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby wiivile » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:28:54

nola vs hamels on wed is pretty much the only reason to watch this week. weren't nola and hamels both in the same rotation at one point? i vaguely remember nola being present at hamels' no hitter. would be cool to see them in the same rotation again.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:33:38

Not saying it's the right thing to do or not but I wonder if Middleton tries to steal Maddon from the Cubs... his deal is up and he'd be closer to his beloved Hazleton
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Brantt » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:34:08

Titlehungry wrote:Firing Kapler now makes no sense... unless the new manager is bringing along 5 new solid bullpen arms, three or four major league starting pitchers, Andrew McCutchen healed, Alec Bohm ready, a permanent position for Scott Kingery, a good hitting coach, and more time to make up the games they are back in the race... fire him after the last game


If you are going to fire him at the end of the season you might as well do it now. Try to get a spark for the last month and a half with a new voice. There's zero downside to that.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:36:56

Titlehungry wrote:Firing Kapler now makes no sense... unless the new manager is bringing along 5 new solid bullpen arms, three or four major league starting pitchers, Andrew McCutchen healed, Alec Bohm ready, a permanent position for Scott Kingery, a good hitting coach, and more time to make up the games they are back in the race... fire him after the last game


Assuming Wathan becomes the interim it gives you 40+ games to evaluate him at this level.
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