mcare89 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Quinn is an elite basestealer. If he stays healthy, I'd love to have him in CF next season. He's almost always put up numbers. Health has been the issue.

He has a career OPS of .680 in 313 plate appearances. I think he's a perfectly nice player to have on your bench, but even taking his health out of the equation, he's not someone I would write in as an everyday starter for a team that's competing for anything.

Also, on the running against the shift thing, I just find it hard to believe that you guys thought of it and nobody in seven or eight-figure analytics departments has considered researching the idea of "if your opponent is shifting, does it make the running game more effective." The more likely scenario, IMO, is that they have researched it, and the answer would surprise you.

mcare89 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Quinn is an elite basestealer. If he stays healthy, I'd love to have him in CF next season. He's almost always put up numbers. Health has been the issue.

He has a career OPS of .680 in 313 plate appearances. I think he's a perfectly nice player to have on your bench, but even taking his health out of the equation, he's not someone I would write in as an everyday starter for a team that's competing for anything.

Also, on the running against the shift thing, I just find it hard to believe that you guys thought of it and nobody in seven or eight-figure analytics departments has considered researching the idea of "if your opponent is shifting, does it make the running game more effective." The more likely scenario, IMO, is that they have researched it, and the answer would surprise you.

philliesphhan wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Quinn is an elite basestealer. If he stays healthy, I'd love to have him in CF next season. He's almost always put up numbers. Health has been the issue.

He has a career OPS of .680 in 313 plate appearances. I think he's a perfectly nice player to have on your bench, but even taking his health out of the equation, he's not someone I would write in as an everyday starter for a team that's competing for anything.

Also, on the running against the shift thing, I just find it hard to believe that you guys thought of it and nobody in seven or eight-figure analytics departments has considered researching the idea of "if your opponent is shifting, does it make the running game more effective." The more likely scenario, IMO, is that they have researched it, and the answer would surprise you.

They're seeing what they want to see rather than what's actually happening

Maybe the stat nerds haven't looked at interaction effects yet. Running less might lead to more runs, but if you run less AND the other team is shifting, maybe it costs you runs. Maybe it's better to run if the other team is in a shift. There's a nerd PhD in there somewhere

philliesphhan wrote:
They change the shift with runners on base. It's why Harper's average is so much higher with runners on. They don't just leave bases open to steal.

wiivile wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Nola hasn’t been very good this season either. Just sayin’.

10-3 and 3.67 is very good

philliesphhan wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:
They change the shift with runners on base. It's why Harper's average is so much higher with runners on. They don't just leave bases open to steal.

Ramon Gris wrote:Kingery, Haseley and Bohm are all coming out of our system this year and next. Hopefully Moniak in 2021. That's probably 5-7 all star seasons out of that group. For all the talk about how bad our farm system has gotten, that's not an embarrassment.

TempleFan22 wrote:

Ramon Gris wrote:Kingery, Haseley and Bohm are all coming out of our system this year and next. Hopefully Moniak in 2021. That's probably 5-7 all star seasons out of that group. For all the talk about how bad our farm system has gotten, that's not an embarrassment.

I’ll take the under here..

Monkeyboy wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:
They change the shift with runners on base. It's why Harper's average is so much higher with runners on. They don't just leave bases open to steal.

sure, we can have a discussion about that. I took issue with you saying I was seeing what I wanted to see. I was just wondering if there might be an interaction between those two variables. I wasn't saying there was one, just that I hadn't seen anything about it and wondered if there could be an effect. Maybe you are right and there's not. I don't really know and said "maybe" because I didn't know.

ek wrote:let's call a spade a spade. as currently constructed they are just not good enough. bottom line. not enough pitching, hitting underacheiving

philliesphhan wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:
They change the shift with runners on base. It's why Harper's average is so much higher with runners on. They don't just leave bases open to steal.

sure, we can have a discussion about that. I took issue with you saying I was seeing what I wanted to see. I was just wondering if there might be an interaction between those two variables. I wasn't saying there was one, just that I hadn't seen anything about it and wondered if there could be an effect. Maybe you are right and there's not. I don't really know and said "maybe" because I didn't know.

It wasn't so much you (you just happened to be the one mcare replied to specifically) but wiiville suggesting they don't run enough, then I pointed out they're middle of the pack, then wiiville saying how do they compare to teams historically which I found to be so ridiculous I didn't even bother with it

TempleFan22 wrote:

Ramon Gris wrote:Kingery, Haseley and Bohm are all coming out of our system this year and next. Hopefully Moniak in 2021. That's probably 5-7 all star seasons out of that group. For all the talk about how bad our farm system has gotten, that's not an embarrassment.

I’ll take the under here..

GrizzledVeteran wrote:Why the living fuck is Sean Rodriguez in the starting lineup tonight?