Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Continues

Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Jul 31, 2017 13:19:57

mozartpc27 wrote:I am not on fire to send away either Galvis or Cesar. But at the same time I really don't know that there is another solution to the middle infield logjam.

As I am invested in the "let's not lose 100" push (it's 1997 all over again!), I'd prefer they stand pat for now. Or go get Stanton in a stunner, that would be fun. Not sure it's the right move, or if it is still a thing that the Marlins want out of that contract, but there's no doubt it would be fun.

If there were a Stanton deal to be had, would Williams & Cesar & one pitching prospect of the Marlins choice below AA for the Phillies taking on all of Stanton's deal get it done? If the Phillies still wanted to try to get Yellich as part of the deal, as we've heard before, I'd imagine that would have to wait until the offseason.

In reality, Stanton isn't getting moved now, so whatevs, but it is fun to speculate.


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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Jul 31, 2017 14:17:54

Neither Galvis or Cesar are longtime solutions here. Trade them, get something for them now that their value is high and bring up our future 2B/SS combo, Kingery and Crawford.

As for Rhys Hoskins, I hope this doesn't turn into another Ryan Howard situation where he doesn't come up until he's 26. He's already 24. He needs to be the 1B starter on Opening Day next season.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby WilliamC » Mon Jul 31, 2017 14:24:28

pacino wrote:i'm not sure how you quantify the 40 point difference in OBP (65 pts career) between the two in comparison to their defense, but it's a tough pill for me to swallow to deal Cesar and keep Freddy.


Definitely.

I wouldn't even trade Freddy unless a top 100 type prospect was involved. They are both past the point of "are they?". They are both solid major leaguers and Cesar is good.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby mtcal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 14:46:23

What on earth has happened with our Starting Pitching?

good lord.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:13:11

Looks like Benoit has been traded.

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Joaquin Benoit getting handshakes and pats on back from a few people. Looks like he's been traded. Not confirmed.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby azrider » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:15:09

heyeaglefn wrote:Looks like Benoit has been traded.

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Joaquin Benoit getting handshakes and pats on back from a few people. Looks like he's been traded. Not confirmed.


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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:15:14

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Source: Benoit to #Pirates.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Coste2Coste » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:16:52

For RHP Seth McGarry

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:16:53

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Phillies traded Benoit to Pittsburgh for RHP Seth McGarry

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Shadow » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:17:13

Wow, McGarry is really good. Nice grab.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:18:23

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McGarry, 23, appeared in 31 games for Class A Bradenton. Posted a 1.34 ERA (6 ER, 40.1 IP) and 0.84 WHIP.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:18:35

Weird move for the Pirates

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Wheels Tupay » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:20:17

Benoit didn't even get his own trade thread.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Eem » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:20:42

Literally the definition of "great trade, who did we get?"
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:21:03

Uh-oh, we've eked percentage points ahead of the giants.

Amazingly , still on pace to lose 100. boy were we bad for a long time.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Wheels Tupay » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:29:29

Ace Rothstein wrote:Weird move for the Pirates
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby WilliamC » Mon Jul 31, 2017 16:57:27

That trade makes no sense for the Pirates right now.

I'll take it.

It's almost like they just wanted their fans to think "oh we did something". That fanbase deserves better.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Jul 31, 2017 17:07:00

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Klentak regarding Joseph/Hoskins situation: "We’re not going to rush anything while we’re getting pretty good production out of first base."


Yeah, no rush. Hoskins will only be 25 next season in AAA hitting bombs left and right.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Jul 31, 2017 17:09:18

And their first baseman is 25 right now.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 17:19:37

Eem wrote:Literally the definition of "great trade, who did we get?"


I completely disagree. With the trade of Benoit, I am now older than all of the Phillies [again]. This is unacceptable.

Fire Klentak. And bring me the slowly deteriorating corpse of Ichiro, price is no object.
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