go red team

I wish they would just fire his ass now and promote Wathan as they start promoting guys that actually deserve getting MLB opportunities. Saunders is pathetic and Mackanin is pathetic.

I think I am mostly just upset by how bad they are and probably overreacting to Mackanin but he seems like a complete dumbass.

What was the issue with taking him out today?

What did he say? Pulling Nola after 93 pitches through 5 innings seems reasonable.

our 'best' starting pitcher has been Nola

Saw Scott Kingery in person yesterday.

1. He's very fast. Beat out a one-hopper to shortstop that the SS had to take off to his glove side and re-balance before throwing. Impressive stuff
2. He also crushed a homer to left center, ho-hum, #18 on the year

Hope he doesn't piss #hot

Woody wrote:Saw Scott Kingery in person yesterday.

1. He's very fast. Beat out a one-hopper to shortstop that the SS had to take off to his glove side and re-balance before throwing. Impressive stuff
2. He also crushed a homer to left center, ho-hum, #18 on the year

Hope he doesn't piss #hot

i'm jumping off of logic and usual way things go and saying f it call up the king

Herrera in June: .459/.474/.919
Franco in June: .175/.195/.275

As bad as Saunders has been, Franco has been worse.

Woody wrote:Saw Scott Kingery in person yesterday.

1. He's very fast. Beat out a one-hopper to shortstop that the SS had to take off to his glove side and re-balance before throwing. Impressive stuff
2. He also crushed a homer to left center, ho-hum, #18 on the year

Hope he doesn't piss #hot

Rotoworld calling him "one of the best 2B prospects in all of baseball"

I never got too excited mostly due to his 5'10" 180lb frame, but his 18 HR's are definitely making me reconsider.

WhiteyFan wrote:

Woody wrote:Saw Scott Kingery in person yesterday.

1. He's very fast. Beat out a one-hopper to shortstop that the SS had to take off to his glove side and re-balance before throwing. Impressive stuff
2. He also crushed a homer to left center, ho-hum, #18 on the year

Hope he doesn't piss #hot

Rotoworld calling him "one of the best 2B prospects in all of baseball"

I never got too excited mostly due to his 5'10" 180lb frame, but his 18 HR's are definitely making me reconsider.

when i was playing argumenter for anyone who wanted up i was pointing out that he really didn't have much of a history of doing this and to let him do it over a period of time a bit.

Uncle Milty wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:What was the issue with taking him out today?

Didn't have much of an issue with it until the post game comments. For me iit was confirmation of my thinking recently when he's pulled pitchers. Seems like he's not making a decision but reacting because he's pissed off. There's no long-term success in managing anyone that way, be they employees or major league players.

yep

The draft got me looking at the 2010-2012 Williamsport rosters (when I was in State College). I kind of wish I hadn't clicked on Domingo Santana's page. Thanks Amaro!

Phils are still winning.

Kendrick has shown a good bat so far but he's not so good at 2B.

WhiteyFan wrote:

Woody wrote:Saw Scott Kingery in person yesterday.

1. He's very fast. Beat out a one-hopper to shortstop that the SS had to take off to his glove side and re-balance before throwing. Impressive stuff
2. He also crushed a homer to left center, ho-hum, #18 on the year

Hope he doesn't piss #hot

Rotoworld calling him "one of the best 2B prospects in all of baseball"

I never got too excited mostly due to his 5'10" 180lb frame, but his 18 HR's are definitely making me reconsider.

Dustin Pedroia?

Nats are desperate for a closer. We really should be showcasing Neshak in that role.

I guess the proof will be in 7 weeks from now but I'm not sold on this concept of paying solid money for veterans in order to flip guys at the deadline. Really not sure we're going to get much of anything for any of our guys and frankly Neshek and Kendrick are currently playing as well as you could expect.

It's kind of like buying a lottery ticket and hoping it hits so you can trade it for another lottery ticket that probably wont hit. Obviously the odds are against you.

Nesheck and Kendrick are currently hitting. That's good. Hope they keep it up, flip them for lottery tickets, and cross your fingers. These guys are not taking away PT from any deserving youngsters anyway.

WhiteyFan wrote:It's kind of like buying a lottery ticket and hoping it hits so you can trade it for another lottery ticket that probably wont hit. Obviously the odds are against you.

Nesheck and Kendrick are currently hitting. That's good. Hope they keep it up, flip them for lottery tickets, and cross your fingers. These guys are not taking away PT from any deserving youngsters anyway.

Agreed on both. Its more that I'm comparing the $$ spent to acquire those prospects that could have been used on better prospects in Latin America/Cuba. We'll see. This has been a depressing season. But we also spent $22 million on Buchholz/Saunders.

Joely has been traded to Texas for a PTBNL/cash

Squire wrote:I guess the proof will be in 7 weeks from now but I'm not sold on this concept of paying solid money for veterans in order to flip guys at the deadline. Really not sure we're going to get much of anything for any of our guys and frankly Neshek and Kendrick are currently playing as well as you could expect.

What other strategy can you take though really at this point? Spending big money on Free Agents that aren't that good and tying up money they want to use in a few years?