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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by Monkeyboy » Tue Apr 08, 2014 15:47:08
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by my cousin mose » Tue Apr 08, 2014 16:40:50
lethal wrote:Woody wrote:Hasn't Zimmerman basically been throwing underhand for like 3 years?
Yeah, that's why re-signing LaRoche for 2 years before last season didn't make any sense. They could've put Zimmerman at 1B and Rendon at 3B and been OK without an overpaid LaRoche.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by BigEd76 » Sun May 04, 2014 21:24:52
Ricky Romero
2013 Buffalo Bison = $7.5M
2014 Buffalo Bison = $7.5M
2015 Buffalo Bison? = $7.5M
2016 = $13.1M club option / $600K buyout
2013 Buffalo Bison = $7.5M
2014 Buffalo Bison = $7.5M
2015 Buffalo Bison? = $7.5M
2016 = $13.1M club option / $600K buyout
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by swishnicholson » Sun May 04, 2014 22:04:26
bleh wrote:C.C. Sabathia lhp
5 years/$122M (2012-16), plus 2017 vesting option
signed extension with NY Yankees 10/31/11
12-15:$23M annually, 16:$25M, 17:$25M vesting option ($5M buyout)
2017 salary guaranteed if Sabathia 1) does not end 2016 on the disabled list with a left shoulder injury, 2) does not spend more than 45 days in 2016 on the disabled list with a left shoulder injury or 3) does not make more than six relief appearances in 2016 because of a left shoulder injury
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almost the same contract as Howard actually, to the years.
Too early to give up on him, and he does have a great SO/W ratio, but man, he's been pretty bad for a good while now. He still always manages to take his turn, but they may be a bad thing in a very short while.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by JFLNYC » Sun May 04, 2014 22:22:04
Fwiw, his xFIP is 2.96 and his BABIP is .361.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by swishnicholson » Sun May 04, 2014 22:39:52
JFLNYC wrote:Fwiw, his xFIP is 2.96 and his BABIP is .361.
Yeah, he's clearly still doing some things exceptionally well, though the results haven't been there. He's been shelled after the fifth inning, which may be something he'll overcome as the season goes on, or may be a huge problem for someone with a reputation as a workhorse.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by lethal » Mon May 05, 2014 16:12:40
If Howard can continue hitting at this pace for the next 3 seasons, the rest of his contract might not end up being a complete disaster. Overpaid, yes, but not a complete disaster. That's the best case scenario at this point, not to be a complete disaster.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by smitty » Mon May 05, 2014 16:22:18
Yeah. There are guys getting paid a lot who completely suck like B. J. Upton and Dan Uggla. Prince Fielder is having a rough start. There are others.
Howard really shouldn't have started vs. Gio yesterday. Would like to see Ruf back on the roster. Hopefully his hands haven't gotten all fat while on the DL.
Biggest problem with Howard's contract is 1B is an easier position to fill with a good hitter than most others. And big 1Bmen often decline more quickly and suddenly than others.
Howard really shouldn't have started vs. Gio yesterday. Would like to see Ruf back on the roster. Hopefully his hands haven't gotten all fat while on the DL.
Biggest problem with Howard's contract is 1B is an easier position to fill with a good hitter than most others. And big 1Bmen often decline more quickly and suddenly than others.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by bleh » Wed Jun 11, 2014 00:51:53
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by JFLNYC » Wed Jun 11, 2014 08:24:45
Has he declined sufficiently for Rube to get him?
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by Grotewold » Mon Jul 07, 2014 15:44:31
Buster has the Yankees hoping CC retires
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by philliesphhan » Mon Jul 07, 2014 20:21:23
Oddly since it was talked about randomly at the beginning of the year in this thread, Votto has been subpar. Still a great OBP but not hitting for much power.
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by pacino » Tue Jul 08, 2014 08:10:52
except for the OBP, sounds like Howard all over again
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by Grotewold » Tue Jul 08, 2014 09:33:42
[x] fiasco
[x] not ryan howard
[x] not ryan howard
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by drsmooth » Tue Jul 08, 2014 09:34:26
Grotewold wrote:{img}prince in all his illustrated glory {/img}
pretty much can't un-see that, thank you very much
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Re: Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco
by Bob Loblaw » Tue Jul 08, 2014 13:37:29
Grotewold wrote:
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