Not The Ryan Howard Fiasco

by **ReadingPhilly** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:32:23

Houshphandzadeh wrote:which one of these guys should we trade Howard for

i'd trade him for tex or cj wilson without hesitation.

by **swishnicholson** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:44:34

my cousin mose wrote:board should be renamed to "things we're trying to make ourselves feel less shitty about"

by **td11** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:19:26

phdave wrote:
B.J. Upton cf
5 years/$75.25M (2013-17)

5 years/$75.25M (2013-17)
signed by Atlanta as a free agent 11/28/12
$3M signing bonus
13:$12.45M, 14:13.45M, 15:$14.45M, 16:$15.45M, 17:$16.45M

in 1028 PA the last 2 years he's put up a .198/.279/.314// .593 with 32 SB (12 CS), good for a 66 OPS+. still 3 more years to go

by gr » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:35:56

def one of rube's best non-moves

by **Napalm** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:42:30

gr wrote:def one of rube's best non-moves

don't think that he didn't try though

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:49:38

http://grantland.com/features/worst-mlb-contracts-2015-alex-rodriguez-ryan-howard-prince-fielder/

by **Grotewold** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:00:28

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:http://grantland.com/features/worst-mlb-contracts-2015-alex-rodriguez-ryan-howard-prince-fielder/

Not just Fielder and Pujols worse than Howard but BSG pin up boys Choo and Upton. Hamilton one spot behind him

We are all idot

by **CalvinBall** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:03:03

rangers are fucked forever

by **iladelph53** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:13:49

IMO, Choo rebounds to an above .800 OPS. Fielder rebounds too. Hamilton will stay around mid-700s OPS in only around 350 PAs. And Upton is awful.

by **Bucky** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:52:26

wow, 'ol friend michael bourn on the HM list. recall a pretty strong push here to get him.

joey votto, wow.

by **Grotewold** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:53:31

Bucky wrote:wow, 'ol friend michael bourn on the HM list. recall a pretty strong push here to get him.

and swisher

at this point an article on the best free agent signings would be more interesting

by **BigEd76** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 13:02:36

Hope we see a bunch of Nats on this list in a few years

by **Shore** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 13:45:10

The only reason anyone's ahead of Howard this year is length of time remaining on the contract. OK, maybe BJ Upton is worse.

The list is fucked IMO because I'd trade Howard and his 2/60 for ARod and his 3/61 in a New York minute.

by **rolex** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 14:00:38

Shore wrote:The only reason anyone's ahead of Howard this year is length of time remaining on the contract. OK, maybe BJ Upton is worse.

The list is #$!&@ IMO because I'd trade Howard and his 2/60 for ARod and his 3/61 in a New York minute.

IDK, with the incentives in his deal that go above the 3/61, he is going to be more expensive.

by **Eem** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 14:16:40

Shore wrote:The only reason anyone's ahead of Howard this year is length of time remaining on the contract.

Seems like a completely viable element to ranking "the worst contracts in baseball"

by **Phred** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 14:16:58

Bucky wrote:wow, 'ol friend michael bourn on the HM list. recall a pretty strong push here to get him.

joey votto, wow.

Votto will be fine.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 15:04:19

Eem wrote:
Shore wrote:The only reason anyone's ahead of Howard this year is length of time remaining on the contract.

Seems like a completely viable element to ranking "the worst contracts in baseball"

Yeah, it's the worst contracts right now, not the worst contracts of the past decade.

Pujols and Miggy will be vying for the #1 spot within two years.

by **smitty** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 15:07:32

Lots of long term big buck contracts out there and it's getting more popular. Looks like Amaro and Howard were pioneers.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 15:09:54

Grotewold wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:http://grantland.com/features/worst-mlb-contracts-2015-alex-rodriguez-ryan-howard-prince-fielder/

Not just Fielder and Pujols worse than Howard but BSG pin up boys Choo and Upton. Hamilton one spot behind him

We are all idot

FTR, I never wanted Bourn on anything more than a 2-or-3-year bargain deal and was only reluctantly interested in Upton (but certainly not for 5/$75M). I'm sure I was an idiot about someone else on that list though. Probably Hamilton. I think I ultimately said fuck it and went all-in on him, but wasn't happy about it.

by **Trent Steele** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 13:55:16

In terms of "worst contract at the time they were given with no second-guessing or hindsight allowed" no one can beat Rube and Popo

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